The Second Best Way to Get Divorced, According to Maya Hawke

Modern Love

The New York Times

Nytimes, Redemption, Society & Culture, New York Times, Love, Essay, Storytelling, Loss, Nyt

4.4 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

When Maya Hawke’s famous parents got divorced, she was just a little kid trying to navigate their newly separate worlds. Paparazzi aside, Maya’s experience of shuttling between two homes was still more common than the arrangement described in the essay Maya reads: “Our Kinder, Gentler, Nobody-Moves-Out Divorce,” by Jordana Jacobs. By staying under one roof, Jacobs and her ex-husband spared their young son the distress of having to go back and forth. But this “dad upstairs, mom downstairs” arrangement also meant that Jacobs had to overhear her ex falling in love with his new partner. Today, Hawke reflects on the bittersweet family portrait in Jacobs’s essay, and on divorce’s role in Hawke’s own upbringing. Maya’s latest album, “Chaos Angel,” drops May 31.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin. This is Modern Love, and our guest today is Maya Hawk.
0:09.4	You might know her as Robin Buckley, a wise-cracking but open-hearted teen on the paranormal TV series, Stranger Things.
0:16.5	I should stop talking. I have said everything I need to say, but then I guess I get nervous
0:21.8	in the words they just they keep
0:23.0	spilling out and it's like my or as a fearless Joe March from the BBC's little
0:28.3	women I need to not live out my entire life in the tiny town where I was born. You might also think of Maya as the daughter of Ethan
0:36.0	Hawk and Uma Thurman, but Maya isn't a kid anymore. She's in her mid-20s now. I just saw
0:41.6	her in West Anderson's latest movie Asteroid City where she plays a kind of buttoned up school teacher.
0:47.0	As you know boys and girls your parents arrived late last night by military helicopter.
0:51.0	They've been sequestered in that metal hut over there
0:53.0	for the past several hours.
0:54.0	And in a new biopit called Wildcat,
0:56.3	Maya portrays a tortured Flannery O'Connor.
0:59.5	Dear God, please.
1:01.8	I can never seem to escape myself unless I'm writing.
1:05.0	She's also a singer-songwriter.
1:08.0	In May, she'll put out her third album, Chaos Angel.
1:11.0	Here's a single from it called Missing Out.
1:14.0	Missing Up, missing up, missing up.
1:17.0	Maya hopped in a call with me in her downtime from shooting stranger things.
1:24.3	When we asked her to pick an essay for this special Modern Love
1:26.9	anniversary series we're doing, she chose one called
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New York Times, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The New York Times and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.