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The Scramble for AI

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🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The world’s most powerful countries are racing to dominate artificial intelligence. Who will win? The answer might lie in who controls high-end chips—and the critical metals behind them. Paul Scharre, the author of Four Battlegrounds: Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence, describes this competition in FP’s new Summer 2023 print issue and joins host Ravi Agrawal to discuss how AI will shape geopolitics for years to come.  Suggested reading: Paul Scharre: AI’s Gatekeepers Aren’t Prepared for What’s Coming Stanley McChrystal: AI Has Entered the Situation Room Sasha Polakow-Suransky: Can ChatGPT Explain Geopolitics? Alondra Nelson: How to Regulate AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ravi Agruwal, Foreign Policy's editor-in-chief. This is FP Live.

0:10.4

Welcome to the show. All of a sudden, everyone is talking about artificial intelligence. It's gone

0:17.4

from being a relatively niche area a year ago to a topic that the broader public

0:22.1

seems obsessed with. Some of this new interest, to be fair, is because of ChatGPT. When it launched

0:29.5

late last year, I think it connected with non-AI experts because it started doing well at very

0:35.8

human tasks, research, school tests, the bar exam,

0:41.2

and it spurred larger public debate about AI's role in society, its impact on jobs,

0:46.5

the economy, and so much else.

0:49.1

But the area that's gotten less public attention is how AI can impact geopolitics. And that's the area our summer

0:56.7

print issue takes on. It's called The Scramble for AI. And it has a great set of essays

1:03.0

exploring how AI has sparked a new arms race of sorts and how it's already having a remarkable

1:09.0

impact on warfare and deterrence.

1:11.7

You can read more in the links on this page.

1:14.7

The lead essay in the package is by Paul Schare, who compares the AI race today to the nuclear race a generation ago.

1:23.0

Like then, this race will create a world of haves and have-nots.

1:29.9

Much of the scramble for AI is around controlling access to the computing hardware needed to train powerful AI models. And that

1:36.6

leads to all kinds of questions about alliances, export controls, sanctions, regulation. You really must read the essay. In addition to our cover

1:47.4

essay, Paul is the author of Four Battlegrounds, Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence.

1:53.6

He spent time at the Pentagon, where he worked on emerging weapons technologies, and he's

1:57.9

currently the Director of Studies at the Center for a New American Security.

2:02.3

As always, FP subscribers get to send in questions that frame these discussions.

2:07.2

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