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Assessing Kyiv’s Counteroffensive

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🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

It’s been a mixed summer for Ukraine. Kyiv’s counteroffensive is progressing slowly, and the country was stymied in its bid to join NATO. But Russia has suffered military setbacks, and the West continues to offer Ukraine important security guarantees. Andrea Kendall-Taylor joins FP Live host Ravi Agrawal to discuss the latest in the war and assess where things might head next. Kendall-Taylor is the director of the Transatlantic Security Program at the Center for New American Security. Suggested reading: Simon Sebag Montefiore: Putin’s Fear of Strong Generals Is as Old as Russia Itself Anastasia Edel: Inside Putin’s Surreal Television Empire Jack Detsch: Wagner Mutiny Rattles the Kremlin’s War in Ukraine Stephen M. Walt: Cluster Bombs and the Contradictions of Liberalism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy's editor-in-chief. This is FP Live.

0:10.4

Welcome to the show. Ukrainian President Volodomir Zelensky gave the world some mixed messages at last

0:16.9

week's NATO summit. First, he criticized NATO countries for not laying out a clear path

0:22.6

for Ukraine's membership. He called the lack of such a move absurd. The next day, perhaps after

0:29.2

some Western officials took issue with his tone, he was heard praising NATO for all of its

0:34.6

support. And then, when he reached home, he was at pains to explain to a domestic

0:39.3

audience his visit wasn't in vain. Zelensky has arguably the most difficult job in the world,

0:46.6

and it's not hard to see in his statements last week a microcosm of the current state of the war.

0:52.7

Obviously, Ukraine has done far better than anyone expected

0:56.0

18 months ago, but Kiev's ongoing counteroffensive hasn't significantly moved the needle,

1:02.5

at least not as much as supporters hoped, and that's despite the fact that the recent Wagner

1:08.1

rebellion highlighted real weaknesses and dissent in Putin's regime.

1:13.1

It's a good time to try and explore where things stand in the war in Ukraine, and I turn to a

1:18.5

popular FP live guest for that, Andrea Kendall Taylor. She's a senior fellow and the director

1:24.2

of the Transatlantic Security Program at the Center for New American Security.

1:29.4

She previously served in the CIA for eight years and in government as a Russia expert.

1:34.4

She's also the co-host of the podcast, Brussels Sprout. And as you'll hear ahead, she thinks Putin has

1:40.3

actually handled the fallout from the Wagner Rebellion quite well, but she thinks Kiev will

1:45.6

soon ramp up its counteroffensive. There's a lot to listen there. As always, FP subscribers get to

1:51.7

send in questions that frame these discussions, and soon, I should say, you'll be able to ask me

1:57.1

questions too. I'm going to do an Ask Me Anything episode later this summer.

2:01.5

Send in your questions about me, the show,

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