The Science of Trust and Attachment with Dr. Steve Finn (180)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Deciding who to trust in today's world is especially hard - fake news, political polarization, and societal strife amplify our already on-guard nervous system. When our trust has been broken, whether early in childhood or in our adult relationships, learning who to trust can prove even more challenging. In today's episode, Dr. Steve Finn and Dr. Ann Kelley discuss the science behind epistemic trust and why many of us may have broken trust meters. They discuss how trust issues can create a mess in our relationship, whether we are the constant skeptic who resists taking in new information or we tend to trust blindly, without testing or holding healthy doubts. Together they provide deep and compassionate insights into these struggles and how they relate to internal working models. A fan favorite, Dr. Finn returns to bring his years of expertise to our listeners about ways to use science to build trust using curiosity and tools of mentalization, including our ability to handle healthy skepticism.

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0:00.0	So they start recalibrating their capacity for epistemic trust and mistrust both through their
0:05.6	experience and then by using you as a consultant to know when to trust and distrust. Then,
0:11.3	Fonigui says, after that healing process takes place, the most important place of psychotherapy
0:18.3	is the client leaves your office with this new capacity to be able to tell when to trust and
0:24.1	distrust and who to take an information from. And then they begin to interact in the social
0:29.6	world and exercise this and then they can ongoingly continue to update their working models in
0:38.1	different environments, meet new people, go to a new job, be able to figure this out. And he says,
0:43.5	this is like the most important healing process takes place after the therapy is done.
0:51.5	Welcome to Therapist Uncensored. Building on decades of professional experience,
0:55.6	this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more in an honest way that's helpful
1:01.0	in healing humans. Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.
1:12.6	Hey everyone, I'm Anne Kelly and in today's episode, I get to talk with one of my favorite
1:16.9	people, Steve Finn, about a topic that's super important to all of us and that's trust. So for
1:22.3	longtime listeners out there, you've heard Sue and I interview him, gosh, now it's several years ago,
1:26.5	on the topic of conquering shame. We've replayed that episode pretty recently, it's episode,
1:31.3	I believe, 154. And people really, really responded and love Steve and I think you will too. So
1:38.0	who is Steve? He's a clinical psychologist, he's a associate clinical professor at the University
1:42.7	of Texas at Austin and he is the president and founder of the Center for Therapeutic Assessment.
1:48.5	So he teaches literally all over the world and at the core of his trainings about assessment is
1:53.3	the essential aspect of developing deep and trusting collaborative relationships for any real change
1:59.6	to occur. Now this is not always as easy as it sounds. So as you know right now, trust is at an
2:05.6	extreme low. Everything from fake news to we can't trust our bodies and mistrust the political
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