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For a really long time I have thought very hard about the biological clock and how it affects people in their dating lives.

The way that if we're panicked because we think that our goal of having children is suddenly threatened by our timeline and we think that we're not going to meet someone in time that can be a disaster in our dating life.

It's just in all sorts of ways, both conscious and unconscious. It can make us live in fear and anxiety that is not going to happen.

It can make every day that we don't meet someone and find a serious committed relationship seem harder and harder.

It can affect our energy on a date when you go on a date and there is a nervous energy when there is a sense of I need you for this that creates so much power in the other person's hands and it robs us of our power in the situation.

It can make us feel the power of the power to have standards about how we're treated. It robs us of the power to walk away if the situation isn't right.

And it risks us settling for something that we shouldn't be settling for.

I wanted to create a conversation that could help anyone in this position to get their power back, their personal power in the situation so that they could get back to a place of peace where they can make good decisions and make it much more likely that their goal of having a family happens.

So I invited two really wonderful people to the conversation who are far more educated than me when it comes to fertility and the issues that not just women face but people face in these areas and I think you're really going to enjoy this.

I hope that it sparks a conversation that maybe you're not having in your own life or that you just haven't been able to find out there in the online world.

And I look forward to your feedback on it. So without further ado, I present to you this podcast on biological.

I have with me today, Dr. Joana Bayou, who is a general surgeon at Stanford and a former pediatrician. She obtained her medical degree and a master's in public health from Harvard, her professional interest in women's health healthcare administration.

And she uses writing as a tool for advocacy. She also wrote an article called freezing the future about her own journey with egg freezing and I'm really excited to talk more about that alongside her.

Alongside her, we have Dr. Serena Chen. Dr. Chen is a director for the division of reproductive medicine at Cooperman Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, New Jersey and the Institute for reproductive medicine and science with several locations throughout New Jersey in New York.

She graduated from Brown University and Duke University School of Medicine, training gynecology obstetrics, reproductive and draconology and infertility at the Johns Hopkins Hospital.

She is a clinical associate professor at Rutgers, New Jersey Medical School in Newark and Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in New Brunswick, New Jersey.

That is all I'm out for. But so happy to have the two of you here. I was very excited just to get people who live in this world in one way or another, either through personal experience or through their professional path to weigh in on this subject.

So hello to both of you.

Thanks for having us.

It's my pleasure. Well, I kind of I suppose I'll keep this open between all of us and feel free to just jump in where you see fit because I won't always know where a question is best directed.

But I think that you know, I'd love this to just be a very casual conversation between the three of us and to try and get some we're interesting with it.

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