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Leading Saints Podcast

The Science of Speaking in Sacrament Meeting | An Interview with Stephan Taeger

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Stephan Taeger is an assistant professor in Ancient Scripture at Brigham Young University. He received a PhD from BYU in Instructional Design and Technology in 2018. Stephan’s research focuses on homiletics (the study of preaching), narrative instruction, and ancient scripture. He is also an author and co-host of the RVVL podcast with David Butler.

Stephan Taeger

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Highlights

Stephan shares insights into the art of giving talks (or sermons) within the Latter-day Saint tradition, from his academic background and teaching experience. He highlights the unique aspects of Latter-day Saint preaching, contrasting it with the more formal sermon traditions found in other Christian denominations. Stephan emphasizes the importance of storytelling in effective preaching, noting that narratives can create experiential learning opportunities for the audience, allowing them to connect with the message on a deeper level. He encourages speakers to focus on a central question and a clear message, suggesting that personal stories and scriptural examples can enhance the impact of their talks.

Throughout the episode, Stephan discusses the significance of understanding the audience’s needs and the role of the Holy Spirit in facilitating change. He advocates for a balance between using scripture and personal experiences, urging speakers to be authentic and relatable while also drawing on the teachings of living prophets. The conversation culminates in practical advice for church leaders on how to set speakers up for success, including providing clear guidance on topics and encouraging a focus on Jesus Christ. Overall, this episode serves as a valuable resource for anyone looking to improve their speaking skills and effectively communicate gospel principles in a way that resonates with their audience.

02:12 – Teaching at BYU and Engaging Non-Latter-day Saints
04:41 – Understanding Non-Latter-day Saint Classes
06:07 – PhD in Instructional Psychology and Homiletics
07:30 – The Importance of Storytelling in Teaching
08:51 – Differences in Preaching Traditions
10:12 – The Unique Nature of Latter-day Saint Talks
11:34 – Purpose of Sermons and Building Faith
12:45 – The Role of the Holy Spirit in Change
14:13 – Focus on Jesus Christ in Messages
15:11 – Analyzing Unmet Needs in the Congregation
16:49 – The Importance of Scripture and Prophetic Quotes
18:45 – Discernment vs. Compliance in Teaching
19:48 – The Role of Personal Interpretation of Scripture
22:09 – The Power of Story in Teaching
23:25 – Balancing Personal and Scriptural Stories
24:17 – The Importance of Context in Scripture
25:31 – Encouraging Personal Interpretation of Scripture
28:07 – Crafting a Clear Message for Talks
30:24 – The Role of Emotion in Effective Speaking
31:16 – Setting Up Speakers for Success
32:30 – Starting a Talk Effectively
41:00 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts on Effective Communication

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Transcript

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0:00.0

How do you help someone tell their spouse that they have secretly been viewing pornography?

0:07.1

Wow, these are tough situations.

0:09.8

Thankfully, one of my favorite and most effective therapist, Jeff Struer,

0:13.8

put together a presentation about disclosing betrayal.

0:17.4

Jeff explains how disclosing betrayal can make recovery and repentance so much more difficult if it isn't handled correctly.

0:25.3

This isn't a rip the Band-Aid off quickly type of situation.

0:28.5

With a better understanding of betrayal, church leaders can be a strong resource in helping couples navigate the awful effects of pornography usage.

0:36.8

You can watch Jeff's entire presentation

0:38.7

at no cost in the Liberating Saints virtual library. Simply go to leadingsaints.org

0:43.8

slash 14, and you can sign up for 14 days of free access to Jeff's presentation and the

0:49.6

entire library. It's one of my favorite interviews.

0:57.1

Hey, welcome to the Leading Saints podcast. Now, for many of you that are brand new to leading

1:02.1

saints, it's important to do know that Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization, 501C3,

1:07.7

dedicated to helping Latter Day Saints be better prepared to lead. And we do that through

1:12.9

content creation. You get so much positive feedback on the podcast, our virtual conferences,

1:18.4

the articles on our website. You definitely got to check it out at leadingsaints.org.

1:23.1

And on their homepage at LeadingSaints.org, you can actually find the top six most downloaded episodes to the podcast.

1:29.2

So if you're new, like the content, want to jump in to some of the most popular episodes, head there after you listen to this episode.

1:39.8

Another Leading Saints interview, and let me tell you what, this one I was looking forward to.

1:43.8

And I'm so glad I got to participate in it.

1:46.3

It's with Stefan Tager from BYU.

1:49.0

He's a BYU religion professor.

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