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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

The Science of Longevity: Why Healthspan Matters More Than Lifespan with Dr Peter Attia #356

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2023

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

No one would argue that smoking is a killer. And no doctor would wait until a patient was showing early signs of cancer or heart disease before advising them to quit. Yet this is one of the few health scenarios where early prevention is given the evidence-based weight it deserves. Today’s guest believes that needs to change. Dr Peter Attia is a medical doctor, a longevity expert and author of the brand new book Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity. He gained his medical degree at Stanford University, trained in general surgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and was a surgical oncology fellow at the US National Cancer Institute. He’s also on the editorial board for the journal Aging and host of The Drive podcast, which covers health, medicine, and longevity. Peter is not interested in reaching unheard-of age milestones or hitting birthdays in triple figures – unless he can do it with full vitality. He believes our focus needs to be on the quality of life we’re living; our healthspan rather than our lifespan. We talk about the evolution of medicine and we discuss the limitations of current practice. Peter calls this ‘medicine 2.0’ and describes it as adept at dealing with ‘fast death' from trauma and infection. But it’s failing to counter our declining life expectancy or deal with the prevalence of chronic disease. Peter shares what he calls the ‘four horsemen’ of the health apocalypse – namely the 4 disease states, that will end up taking most of our lives: atherosclerosis, cancer, neurodegenerative diseases and metabolic dysfunction. Our objective, he says, should be to die ‘with’ disease, not ‘of’ disease and a huge part of Peter’s philosophy is about aggressively taking action to delay the onset of these four horsemen. But, to do that, we will need to take a different approach, which Peter calls, ‘medicine 3.0’. In our wide-ranging conversation, Peter shares which investigations and tests he thinks we should all be doing and he explains why when it comes to longevity, exercise is the most important area to focus on.  We also discuss the vital importance of emotional health and, Peter talks openly about his own struggles with extreme perfectionism and shares some of the tools that he uses daily to help. I loved having the opportunity to connect with Peter during this in-depth and enlightening chat. I hope you enjoy listening. Support the podcast and enjoy Ad-Free episodes. Try FREE for 7 days on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/feelbetterlivemore. For other podcast platforms go to https://fblm.supercast.com. Thanks to our sponsors: https://www.boncharge.com/livemore https://www.athleticgreens.com/livemore https://www.vivobarefoot.com/livemore Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/356 DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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These three things doubled human life expectancy in a very short period of time.

0:05.0

One was the scientific method.

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The second thing was the development of the light microscope.

0:09.0

The third piece of that was the development of antibiotics.

0:12.0

We went from about a life expectancy of 40 to 80 inside of a generation and a half.

0:18.0

Today we're at a point where not only his life expectancy flattened, but in many

0:22.5

parts of the developed world, it's actually declining a little bit. And more importantly,

0:25.9

quality at the end of life is going down. The question is why?

0:30.6

Hey guys, how you doing? I hope you're having a good week so far. My name is Dr. Rongan Chatterjee,

0:36.8

and this is my podcast, Feel Better, Live More.

0:43.3

No one would argue that smoking is a killer. And no doctor would wait until the patient was

0:49.7

showing early signs of cancer or heart disease before advising them to quit.

0:55.7

Yet this is one of the very few health scenarios where early prevention is given the evidence-based

1:01.9

weight it deserves. Today's guest believes that needs to change.

1:07.8

Dr Peter Ateer is a medical doctor, a longevity expert, an author of the brand new book,

1:14.3

Outlived, the Science and Art of Longevity. Peter gained his medical degree at Stanford University,

1:21.7

trained in general surgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and was a surgical oncology fellow at the US National Cancer Institute.

1:31.1

He's also on the editorial board for the journal Aging and host of the Drive podcast, which covers

1:37.5

health, medicine and longevity. Now, Peter is not someone who's interested in reaching

1:43.6

unheard-off age milestones or hitting birthdays

1:47.4

in triple figures, unless he can do it with full vitality. He believes our focus needs to be on

1:55.2

the quality of life we're living, our health span, rather than our lifespan. We begin our conversation by talking about the

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