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10% Happier with Dan Harris

The Science Of Getting Out Of Your Head | Annie Murphy Paul

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.612.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

An acclaimed science writer on how to upgrade your mind by using more than your head.


When you think about thinking, most of us think of it as a supremely solo pursuit. You’re in your head, concentrating and cogitating, all by yourself. But the science shows that if you want to improve your thinking, you need to get out of your head. Today we’re going to talk about a concept called “the extended mind.” Your mind isn’t just in your skull: it’s in your body, it’s in the people around you, it’s in your surroundings. The best thinking requires that you break out of what the writer David Foster Wallace called “the skull sized kingdom” and access these other resources.


This may sound abstract, but our guest today makes it very practical. Annie Murphy Paul is an acclaimed science writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, the Boston Globe, Scientific American, Slate, Time, and The Best American Science Writing, among many other publications. She is the author of Origins and The Cult of Personality, hailed by Malcolm Gladwell as a “fascinating new book.” Currently a fellow at New America, Paul has spoken to audiences around the world about learning and cognition; her TED talk has been viewed by more than 2.6 million people. A graduate of Yale University and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, she has served as a lecturer at Yale University and as a senior advisor at their Poorvu Center for Teaching and Learning. Her latest book is The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain


In this episode, we also talk about:


  • How to use your surroundings to think better 
  • My favorite of the three areas of this book – thinking with our relationships
  • Why “groupthink” isn’t always a bad thing (OR you can say, the benefits of thinking in groups)
  • What she called “extension inequality” – that this benefit of the extended mind isn’t available to all people



Related Episodes: Ancient Secrets to Modern Happiness | Tamar Gendler


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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hey gang, when you think about thinking, I think most of us think of it as a supremely solo pursuit.

0:26.0

You are in your head concentrating and cogitating all by yourself, but the science shows that

0:32.4

if you really want to improve your thinking, you need

0:35.1

to get out of your head.

0:37.4

Today we're going to talk about a concept called the extended mind.

0:40.8

Your mind is not just in your skull, it's in your body, it's in the people around you, it's in your mind. Your mind is not just in your skull. It's in your body. It's in the people around you. It's in your surroundings.

0:46.0

The best thinking requires you to break out of what the writer David Foster Wallace once called the skull-sized Kingdom and to access all of these other resources.

0:57.3

This may sound abstract, but my guest today is going to make it very practical since this interview

1:02.2

I've been using many of her techniques.

1:05.1

Annie Murphy Paul is an acclaimed science writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times,

1:09.3

the Boston Globe and Scientific American. She's currently a fellow at New America and has spoken to audiences around the world and even given a TED Talk.

1:20.0

She's a graduate of Yale and Columbia and her latest book is called The Extended Mind,

1:24.8

The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain.

1:27.8

I love this interview.

1:28.9

I love her work.

1:29.8

If you're interested in improving the way you think this is a must listen.

1:34.0

Annie Murphy Paul coming up.

1:37.0

But first some BSP, as you've heard me say before, the hardest part of personal growth,

1:42.0

self-improvement, spiritual development, whatever you want to call it. the hardest part is

1:43.0

improvement spiritual development whatever you want to call it the hardest

1:45.6

part is forgetting you listen to a great podcast you read a great book you go to a

1:50.1

great talk whatever it is and the message is electrifying. But then you get sucked back

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