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The School of Greatness

The Science of Doing Less to Achieve More | David Epstein

The School of Greatness

Lewis Howes

Inspiration, Education, Greatness, Celebrity, Money, Relationships, Mindset, Health, Business, Self-improvement, Self Care, Health & Fitness, Fitness, Entrepreneurship, Mental Health, Success, Celebrity Interview

4.822K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

David Epstein, investigative journalist, science writer, and bestselling author of Range and Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better, joins Lewis Howes to explore how strategic constraints unlock creativity, focus, and performance. The conversation covers the BCS Press Release framework, kind vs. wicked learning environments, the 10,000-hour rule myth, the Harvard Study of Adult Development, satisficing rules, the subtractive neglect bias, and research from MIT, Northwestern, and the Census Bureau on founder age and startup success.

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0:00.0

Our brains are not equipped to have access to everything everywhere all of the time.

0:03.0

Since the introduction of infinite scrolling, people have gotten more bored.

0:07.0

If you give people like 20 videos that they can scroll through,

0:10.0

they'll be more bored than if you just take one of those 20, give it to them and make them focus on it.

0:15.0

If you have tons of options, they'll do something you've seen before or that's easy or convenient.

0:20.0

If that's blocked, that's the only time you can start being creative.

0:23.9

He is an investigative journalist, a science writer, and a bestselling author of the book, Range,

0:28.7

which fundamentally changed how top athletes and entrepreneurs think about success.

0:33.0

We have the inspiring David Epstein in the house.

0:36.1

Satisficing is a word created by this guy, Herbert Simon.

0:38.8

Satisficing means instead of trying to evaluate every option and pick the best, you set clear

0:43.3

criteria for good enough. When that's met, you take it and you stop. Just the idea that there's

0:49.3

something else potentially better. Spoils the feeling of the moment. It's called maximizing.

0:55.2

It's almost always bad to be a maximizer. Less happy with their lives. Less happy with their decisions. All these

1:00.6

sorts of things. So how do we know when we have five or ten great options to take action on

1:05.6

something, which one is the right option to take? Well, I would have ahead of time.

1:11.7

David, welcome to the show.

1:13.2

Thanks for having me.

1:14.0

Great to be back.

1:15.1

Excited that you're here, man, because Range was something that when you came out with

1:19.3

that book, I was like, man, he's speaking to my heart.

1:21.8

Because in my childhood, I played every sport.

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