Fear, Shame, and the Fight to Get Out of Your Own Way | Joel Kinnaman
The School of Greatness
Lewis Howes
4.8 • 22K Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2026
⏱️ 88 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I was having a panic attack in front of the whole school. |
| 0:05.0 | I, like, blacked out on stage. |
| 0:07.0 | And then I started stumbling on the word, and I was like, |
| 0:10.0 | I couldn't quite latch on. |
| 0:12.0 | And then finally, I, like, stood up and I went like, |
| 0:16.0 | Fess! |
| 0:17.0 | And then I walked off. |
| 0:18.0 | The whole school was just sitting watching me, like, oh, he's having an emotional breakdown. |
| 0:23.8 | He is an actor who has started some of Hollywood's biggest franchises. |
| 0:28.4 | But behind the action hero, exterior is a man who has had to do the inner work |
| 0:32.8 | in order to achieve the level of success that he has achieved. |
| 0:36.3 | We have the inspiring Joel Kinnaman in the house. |
| 0:40.3 | I was in the abyss. Something in me is telling me that I can't do this. I can't eat. I'm throwing up and now I'm having panic attacks. My constitution can't handle this. |
| 0:50.3 | How have you been able to navigate eating disorder, stage fright, and panic attacks while also being at the top of Hollywood? |
| 0:58.0 | So I started thinking about like these like forces in me what would provoke them the most? Like let's go to fucking war |
| 1:07.0 | You've been a massive star and you've had an incredible career, and right now you have three |
| 1:13.9 | different shows on TV. You've got multiple shows and productions. You are one of the most |
| 1:19.3 | in-demand actors out there. But you've also talked about a few different things with me and also |
| 1:24.5 | publicly. One, an eating disorder that you've had in the past. |
| 1:28.8 | Debilitating stage fright, which I wasn't even aware of that, and panic attacks. |
| 1:32.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:32.7 | But you have been able to be so like on top of your game and accomplish and achieve and perform so well under pressure. |
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