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🗓️ 20 March 2025
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You think, you feel, you are—but what if your consciousness isn’t just in your brain? What if reality itself is shaped by something beyond the physical?
In this episode, Mark Gober—author, consciousness researcher, and former Silicon Valley banker—joins Dave Asprey to challenge everything you think you know about the mind, reality, and human potential. He explores groundbreaking research on near-death experiences, psychic phenomena, and why some scientists believe consciousness may exist beyond the body.
Mark reveals how declassified CIA documents, quantum physics, and meditation practices point to a deeper, more interconnected world—one where perception creates reality. If you’ve ever questioned whether free will is an illusion, wondered about life after death, or wanted to tap into higher states of awareness, this episode will shift your perspective.
What You’ll Discover in This Episode:
• Is consciousness non-local? Why your brain might not be the source of your thoughts
• Near-death experiences & life after death—the science and firsthand accounts
• Psychic phenomena & remote viewing—what the CIA doesn’t want you to ignore
• Float tanks, meditation & altered states—how to access expanded awareness
• The AI consciousness debate—can machines ever become truly self-aware?
• Protecting your energy—why spiritual safeguards matter when exploring altered states
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• A Day of Biohacking and Consciousness Event April 12th: https://daveasprey.com/biohacking-and-consciousness/
• Dave Asprey’s New Book - Heavily Meditated: https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated/
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Trailer
00:50 - Intro
03:11 - Meet Mark Gober
05:25 - From Banking to Awakening
10:16 - Float Tanks & Consciousness
12:35 - Psychic Phenomena
19:14 - Science & Skepticism
25:51 - Personal Experiences
40:51 - Spiritual Protection
42:58 - Parasitic Entities
44:59 - Psychedelics & Mindset
45:58 - Alien Abductions
47:04 - Navigating Psychedelics
51:58 - Intuition & Inner Knowing
58:41 - Telepathy & Remote Viewing
59:46 - Near-Death Experiences
01:04:54 - Consciousness Beyond the Brain
01:12:38 - Psychic Abilities & Ethics
01:24:11 - Consciousness & Reality
01:27:58 - Final Thoughts
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0:00.0 | The model that consciousness revolves around our brain, it's not a proven model. |
0:06.1 | Your consciousness is just riding around in the body with very limited connection to reality |
0:11.8 | because the body, its whole job is to filter out almost all of reality because why would you pay attention to the spinning of the planets and gurgling of things? |
0:19.2 | It's too much data. |
0:19.9 | Consciousness survives bodily death when a person's body dies. Their consciousness simply transitions into a new |
0:24.7 | form. It doesn't die. It's still accessible in the stream. And it could reconfigure into a new |
0:29.1 | whirlpool, i.e. reincarnation wouldn't be paranormal. What evidence do you really have that consciousness |
0:34.3 | isn't in your brand? You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. |
0:42.6 | Today is a show that I am so excited to share with you because you might have noticed |
0:49.2 | that I'm into biohacking. |
0:51.8 | If you've been listening for a long time, you know where biohacking came from. |
0:55.4 | What happens is you might start out saying, look, I care about human performance, or I want to |
1:00.5 | lose weight, or I want my brain to work, and I've been in each of these situations, so I want |
1:04.9 | my body to stop hurting, or I don't want to get sick anymore, right? So there's a consciousness |
1:09.3 | component, and I believe that if you start on the |
1:12.5 | path of biohacking, you will end up inevitably saying, I'm going to join Dave in living to at least |
1:18.4 | 180 and dying at a time and by a method of my choice. You're also, if you decide to do that, |
1:24.5 | like, well, my brain works, I have tons of energy. I don't want to be miserable and suffer anymore and suffer anymore so i'm going to have to well the technical term would be wake the fuck up but the more |
1:33.6 | enlightened term would be i'm going to become more conscious and you've heard me say over and over |
1:40.0 | if you work on your mitochondria you are wired in your bones to be kind to other people. |
1:45.3 | It is a fundamental aspect of life in order to do that. |
1:48.9 | But it's just really hard to shift your energy into that versus staying in fear. |
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