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Let me introduce you to Liz Neely.

As a young scientist making her way through the world, she didn't think that storytelling had a place in science.

I wanted to be the most serious scientific scientist who ever lived.

So I thought that storytelling was somewhere between a distraction and a danger.

And so I thought that storytelling was like hand-waving.

Thought it was what you did when your data was weak in order to sort of nudge people towards your preferred interpretation.

But Liz eventually came around to storytelling in a big way.

So what changed your mind about it?

I started working in science communication.

I wanted to understand how people make sense of the world, how do they make judgments.

So I kept reading these papers that told me narratives are powerful and important.

Right.

Yeah, I was so loud.

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