From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

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This week on the business, the Sapphires is a hit Australian film based on the true story of an Aboriginal girl group that entertained the troops in Vietnam.

We talk with its Aboriginal director, Wayne Blair.

Plus, an update on the plight of the troubled visual effects house,

Rhythm and Hughes. But first, the Hollywood news banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

You can imagine Hollywood, everything is really driven by making money.

What's with him? Where? I'm joined by my banter buddy, John Horn of the Los Angeles Times.

Hello, John.

Hello, Kim.

So, John, drama in late night, a big brouhaha over NBC's apparent plans to move Jay Leno out of the chair as the tonight show host and move Jimmy Fallon in.

Yeah, and to me, this is kind of an unusual, though, not unexpected move. NBC has had any

number of problems in the morning, prime time, daytime. I mean, news is doing well. And late night

with Jay Leno is like the only place they're doing well. But I think they're afraid that

Jay is getting a little long in the tooth. They're worried about the threat from

Jimmy Kimmel at ABC, and they're making what looks like a very dramatic move. Yeah, and I think they also,

you know, are concerned that Letterman's contract, like Leno's, is up in 2014. And if they don't

secure Jimmy Fallon, they could see CBS poach him. It would be a replay of the whole thing that

happened when it was a question of whether Letterman or Leno would take Johnny Carson's seat, which inspired a book and a TV movie. So once again, we're in the middle of this battle, which is being played out, partly I have to admit, thanks to me, publicly, because I wrote about this and started a ball rolling, NBC's

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