The Russian Occupation of Kherson, Ukraine
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 11 October 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the illegal annexation of the Ukrainian region of Kherson, along with others. In the months leading up to the sham referendum that solidified the annexation, the Kremlin launched a forced assimilation campaign that targeted nearly every aspect of daily life in Kherson. Lawfare managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Belén Carrasco Rodríguez and Tom Southern of the Centre for Information Resilience to talk through their research into the means used to establish and strengthen Russian occupational rule over the seized territories. They discussed this Russian playbook for control and the ways that forced assimilation may be working or not.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | It comes down to two main things, which is two things that Putin likes to weaponize. |
| 0:39.8 | It's history and memory in the two realms. |
| 0:42.0 | You've made it in not quite the same thing. |
| 0:43.9 | He's trying to build a legacy for himself. |
| 0:46.8 | He's trying to rebuild the Russian Empire. |
| 0:49.3 | I mean, we've been saying for some time and people would look at us as though we were |
| 0:53.2 | not at it. |
| 0:54.2 | I think we couldn't have been proven more right now with the invasion of places like Kier |
| 0:58.7 | Sonnen. |
| 0:59.7 | It's not just Kier Sonnen, Zaflisha, he's obviously trying to get all of Odessa and the rest |
| 1:03.4 | of it, anywhere where he can claim that there is a high Russian population, he's going to |
| 1:08.4 | reclaim it as sort of an ethno nationalist without ever claiming to be so. |
| 1:13.4 | It's quite an interesting move for him, not least because he spends so much of his time |
| 1:18.6 | or his country's money, at least, trying to convince the world that there are some kind |
| 1:23.0 | of anti-imperialist power that the last and biggest imperialist power in the 21st century |
| 1:28.8 | at the moment. |
| 1:29.8 | So, his entire strategy is about his legacy and the future history, if you like, of Russia. |
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