Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

Well what has always impressed me about Small Town Dicks is the professionalism. First you have your authenticity. You know Dan and Dave, myself we come out of real crime. We've had real experiences. And so the audience, the listeners are getting from Small Town Dicks. What actually happens out there. Not something that's been glamorized. But also you guys don't exploit the cases. You're empathetic to the victims. And this is what I'm all about. And I know that people who know me from

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One of the guys hands like a three four inch pocket knife and hands on her back. You use on top of her straddle in her and she has her by the throat. Strangle in her and she takes that knife and she like points it right.

And she says I should kill you right now. I should kill you right now.

When a serious crime is committed in a small town a handful of detectives are charged with solving the case. I'm yardly and I'm fascinated by these stories.

So I invited my friends detectives Dan and Dave to help me gather the best true crime cases from around the country and have the men and women who investigated them tell us how it happened.

I'm Dan and I'm Dave where identical twins from small town USA. Dave investigated sex crimes and crimes against children. He's now a patrol sergeant at his police department.

Dan investigated violent crimes. He's now retired. Together we have more than two decades experience and have worked hundreds of cases.

We've altered names places relationships and certain details in these cases to maintain the privacy of the victims and their families.

So we ask you to join us in protecting their true identities as well as the locations of these crimes out of respect for everyone involved. Thank you.

Today on small town Dix we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dave. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. So good to see you. It's good to be here. And we have Detective Dan.

Your heart lean. So let's take you to the dead.

Hey, Dan. Cool. Oh, I like it when you do say hello. Hi, Dan. Hi, Dave. Cool.

And we are so pleased to welcome back to the podcast, one of our favorites, Detective Scott. Hello. It's great to be back.

Thanks for coming back. So Scott, you have a really firey case for us today. I'm just going to let you take it from here.

All right, yeah.

So, a few years back in my agency,

I got a call one night from a detective

who was working overtime.

So, he's on our surveillance team,

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