Hey, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to the astrology podcast.

Joining me today is astrologer Sam Ogden, and we're going to be talking about the rulers of the houses in astrology.

Hey, Sam, welcome back.

Hey, thanks so much for having me back.

Yes, we're doing a second episode already this month after just doing the

Antica Theory Mechanism episode, which is a little bit more historical, and I thought

would be good to put a more practical episode here at this point in the series on an episode I've been meaning to do for quite a long time now, which is a very important sort of intermediate astrological technique in looking at the rulers of the houses and where they're located in different parts of the chart.

So this is a pretty important concept, I think, for for needle interpretation, right?

Oh, I completely agree. I think it's one of the most, I mean, it's one of the fundamental pieces of the

astrological science. So I think it's really not to be underestimated, a really powerful technique.

For sure.

So this is an important, but it's an often overlooked element of chart delineation, at least when I was learning modern astrology, something like what around 1999 2000, you know, usually you you learn planets, signs, houses, aspects.

The next step after that though, once you get to the intermediate stage is to learn about the rulers of the houses

because this is where you start learning chart synthesis and how to put the different pieces of the chart together and seeing how it all works together to create a sort of consistent whole and this is basically the first step towards chart synthesis.

Yeah, so synthesizing the chart and that's something probably I think new learners of astrology struggle with a little bit the most right is learning how to synthesize things.

Yeah, you know I found that because I also teach astrology a little bit that or or you know, just little workshops here and there I found that the planets, the signs, and the aspects sometimes are the easier things to understand in the houses for some reason people seem to really struggle with.

But they're, you know, they're not too difficult to understand. They're pretty straightforward.

You know, they're areas of life essentially.

So, right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. So in terms of the origins of this technique, in 2009, the astrologer and historian James Holden translated

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