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Triple Click

The RPGs of 2025 (with Cameron Kunzelman)

Triple Click

Maximum Fun

Arts, Maddy Myers, Society & Culture, Jason Schreier, Kirk Hamilton, Technology, Video Games

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Kirk, Maddy, and Jason bring on special guest Cameron Kunzelman to talk about this year's suite of roleplaying games, from Avowed to Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 to The Outer Worlds 2. They also talk about Assassin's Creed's pivot to RPGs, what an RPG even is, and much more. Plus: Steam Machines!

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0:00.0

A role-playing game is only a role-playing game if at some point,

0:07.3

preferably early on, you get to decide if someone lives or dies.

0:11.0

That's just how it is.

0:12.9

Welcome to Triple Click, where we bring the role-playing games to you.

0:16.4

This week, we're joined by a special guest Cameron Cunzelman to talk about the RPGs of 2025 and what

0:22.3

we can learn from the many choices that they offered us. Let's get into it.

0:30.9

I'm Kirk Hamilton. I'm Maddie Myers. And I'm Jason Dreyer. Hello. Hello. It's so nice to see you both. Great to see you guys. It snowed today in New York for the first time this season. Pretty wild. How much snow? Just a tiny bit of flurring. But still, it was like, when I say tiny bit, I mean, it didn't stick, but enough to like fill the air with snowflakes. I mean, for early November, I feel like that's, that's pretty early for you to get snow.

0:56.9

Definitely.

0:57.7

It's supposedly coming here too, but I don't know if it's here yet.

1:01.4

Jason and I are close enough proximity that sometimes the weather report actually contains both of us.

1:08.0

And that's why it's so important that we go over what the weather is.

1:11.0

Exactly. So you know whether to put on a jacket.

1:14.7

Right, right. Jason can tell me at a time before the winds push the storm over. And when I'm

1:20.4

going to take the trash out later tonight, do I need to put on a more significant coat or not?

1:25.1

If you like this scintillating weather content and you want even more of it,

1:30.2

and you could support our show by becoming a member of Maximum Fun at MaximumFund.org slash join.

1:36.2

That's where you sign up to become a member. And that's how you support triple click. That's the only

1:40.7

way that we make money on this show. And we really appreciate everyone that is a member. So maximumfund.org slash join, become a member, get access to bonus episodes.

1:49.3

There's all kinds of bonus episodes. We recently recorded a very interesting one about

1:53.7

indie game, the movie. And we have a very exciting one coming up for November that I'm not

1:57.8

actually going to swell. I'm just going to squeeze that it's something that we've

2:00.9

been talking about doing for a long time and is actually going to happen in November. So it's very

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