The Role of Transparency in Intelligence Programs: A Conversation with Rachel Brand, Carrie Cordero and Alexander Joel
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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šļø 27 May 2016
ā±ļø 59 minutes
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Summary
This week, the American Bar Association hosted a panel discussion onĀ āAchieving More Transparency about Secret Intelligence Programsā, which along with Lawfare's Carrie Cordero, featured comments from Alexander Joel of Office of the Director of National IntelligenceĀ and Rachel Brand and the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. The panel explores recent calls for greater transparency, and examines whether recently adopted principles go far enough. Can an entity oriented towards secrecy by nature operate effectively in an environment of transparency? And just how much more transparent can intelligence agencies be without enabling legitimate targets to avoid surveillance?
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| 0:29.0 | What I think people have been looking for, again, |
| 0:33.0 | from the civil society perspective, from the private sector perspective, |
| 0:37.0 | from the media perspective, and from the public's perspective, |
| 0:41.0 | are a few sort of big picture areas where the public |
| 0:47.0 | or these different groups would like to see more clarity. |
| 0:50.0 | The first is clarity in the law, and it sounds sort of very fundamental and very basic, |
| 0:56.0 | but it's actually really important and it's important both in the US |
| 1:00.0 | and it's also important to the international community. |
| 1:04.0 | So the clarity in the law, what I mean by that, is the ability for a informed observer |
| 1:10.0 | to understand what laws mean when they authorize intelligence activities |
| 1:17.0 | or surveillance activities in particular, which has been the focus of so much of the attention. |
| 1:23.0 | And so that speaks to laws being clear about what they affirmatively authorize |
| 1:28.0 | and the laws being public law that they are passed by the legislature, |
| 1:33.0 | that they are there for everyone to see. |
| 1:36.0 | I'm Cody Poplin, and this is the LawFair podcast, May 28, 2016. |
| 1:42.0 | That was the voice of Kerry Cordero, LawFair contributor and former Justice Department official, |
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