Michael you what I was trying to get to a moment ago but I think you were

you were trying to get to a moment ago, but I think you've revealed the answer

and some of the conversation here was you were acutely aware

of what your skin color had to do with you being elevated chairman I wouldn't reduce you by the way to just your skin color you clearly have worked labored you put yourself in position and your preparation met an opportunity and you were elevated but your race was not a disqualifier. In fact, you probably considered an asset.

And I'm curious to know for you in making that deal with yourself, that negotiation of, I know what all is in this.

This is important to me only because I think that there are brothers as we as we look out and see people

talking about getting behind Donald Trump.

This election, black men in addition to all of the people Tiffany would listen and

cultures and backgrounds but black folks particularly mean something to us

I'm wondering what what negotiation did you do that said I'm going to accept this because when I leave this perch

This will have been made different because I was here.

Yeah, I was very much a part of. In fact, the day I got elected,

I was coming back into the hall after doing a press conference and one of the

R&C members comes up to me, a woman I'd known

from when I was a state chairman

and served on the executive committee,

comes up gives me this great big hug

and she goes, I'm so excited for you goes I'm so excited for you I'm so excited because now black folks will join the Republican party

and I looked at her and I smiled and I said I'm no Pie Piper and that moment for me was very clarifying because it confirmed, you know, an aspect of this of this process. I mean, a lot of people just a lot of people think, oh, well, they just elected them chairman. I had to go through six ballots. I had to go and stand up against a gentleman, a former

then state party chairman from South Carolina who was still a member of a white only country club.

I had to go through six ballots.

So this wasn't, oh, let's just put the black man in charge.

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