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The Daily

The Risks of a New U.S. Approach in Ukraine

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

As the horrors of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine have became clearer, the Biden administration has pivoted to a more aggressive stance, with officials talking about constraining Moscow as a global power. But that is an escalation, and escalations can go wrong.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tibernese. This is The Daily.

0:11.0

Today, from the beginning of the war in Ukraine, the United States took pains to avoid the appearance

0:19.0

that it was entering a direct confrontation with Russia. This week, that may have begun to change.

0:28.0

My colleague, David Sanger, on the new US approach and the risks it carries.

0:46.0

It's Friday, April 29th.

0:49.0

So, David, we've seen a lot of activity by the United States over the past week in regards to Ukraine.

0:59.0

And I want you to walk us through exactly what the US has been doing.

1:05.0

Well, Sabrina, the most important thing that happened was seeing senior American officials walking around

1:13.0

Kiev and meeting with President Vladimir Zelensky.

1:18.0

There had been a succession of Europeans who came into Kiev, including Boris Johnson and

1:26.0

a number of other European leaders. But the Secret Service would not let President Biden go into

1:34.0

an area that the Russians could easily shell. So, they decided that the next best thing to do was to send

1:42.0

Secretary of State Anthony Lincoln and Lloyd Austin, the Defense Secretary, in together.

1:54.0

They actually landed a military plane in Poland. They left their press corps there.

2:00.0

They got on to a train where the windows were blackened.

2:05.0

And they had the train take them in to Kiev with a complete news blackout so that the Russians

2:12.0

wouldn't know when they were coming. And so, this was the first time that we had actually seen Americans there.

2:21.0

And then they left the country, returned to Poland on a train, and met up with their small press corps.

2:29.0

This was in our judgment an important moment to be there, an important moment for Ukraine for the war.

2:38.0

And Secretary Lincoln and Secretary Austin held a press conference. And that's when things got sort of interesting, Sabrina, because at one moment.

2:48.0

Are you defining America's goals for success? Any differently in Ukraine now than you were at the beginning of this war? And if so, what are those goals today?

2:58.0

Secretary Austin was asked about their objectives. And what he said was...

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