You're going to do. We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour.

I'm Emily Jersinski, Culture Editor editor here at the Federalist as always.

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Today we are joined by Stephen Mosher.

He's the author of the new book, The Devil and Communist China, from Mao down to Z.

And he's also the head of the Population Research Institute.

Stephen, thank you for joining us.

That's good to be here with you today.

Before we dive in the book,

could you tell us a little bit about the Population Research Institute you have a very

interesting career background and maybe get into a bit about how you ended up where you are right now?

Well I'm not sure you it's a career path that many people would want to follow because I was

overjoyed to be selected to be the first American social scientist in China back in 1979. I was the first boots on the ground as it were selected by the State Department and the National Security Council.

But I can read, write, and speak Chinese and I became friends with the local Chinese people and got me in all kinds of trouble because they began telling me tales of woe.

They began telling me about executions outside of the village during the land reform.

They began telling me horror stories about the Cultural Revolution.

And of course I was in the commune when the One Child policy began in 1980 and I saw friends of mine

men and women who were pregnant with their second child arrested for the crime of being pregnant.

It had become a crime in March of 1980 to be pregnant with the second or third child or fourth child in Guangdong province, the southern

province near Hong Kong. And these women were actually arrested, taken

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