The Rise of Anti-Vaxxers

Science Vs

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Education, Science, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 12.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2017

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Last week we explored the science behind vaccine safety. This week we try to understand where these fears came from, and why they persist. We speak to three historians: Prof. Nadja Durbach, Prof. Elena Conis, and Prof. Robert Johnston. And a concerned mom named Noelle. Check out our full transcript here: http://bit.ly/355DlZz Our Sponsors: Cotton Inc + Madewell | Spotify | Sundance Now's Riviera | Wordpress.com Credits: This episode has been produced by Heather Rogers, Wendy Zukerman, and Shruti Ravindran. Production help from Rose Rimler. Our senior producer is Kaitlyn Sawrey. We’re edited this week by Blythe Terrell with editorial assistance from Alex Blumberg, Annie-Rose Strasser and Lynn Levy. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, with help from Rose Rimler. Sound design by Martin Peralta. Music written by Bobby Lord. For this episode we also spoke with Russ Bruesewitz, Prof. Sharon Kaufmann, Prof. Alison Buttenheim, Barbara Loe Fisher, Sally Mendelsohn, Prof. Mary Holland, Prof. Paul Jackson, Prof. Michael Willrich, Julie Livingston and Kari Christianson. Thanks to Gimlet producer Luke Malone, the whole Zukerman clan, Joseph Lavelle Wilson, and Leo Rogers. Selected references:Dr. Robert Mendelsohn’s book, Confessions of a Medical Heretic, Nadja Durbach’s book, Bodily Matters, Vaccine hesitancy paper Paul Offit’s book, Deadly Choices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, and you're listening to Science Vs from Gimlett Media.
0:05.4	This is the show where we pit facts against fears.
0:09.2	On today's show, fear of the vaccine.
0:15.6	And this is part two of our look into vaccines.
0:18.2	If you haven't heard part one, go back and listen.
0:21.4	We dove into the risks and benefits of vaccines.
0:24.8	But on today's episode, we're going to talk about where the fear of these vaccines
0:29.9	came from.
0:31.9	Now, it might feel like the anti-vaccination movement is new, perhaps a product of this era
0:38.6	of misinformation, where it feels like you can find proof of anything online.
0:43.1	But actually, the fear of vaccines goes way back to well before the internet.
0:50.8	In fact, it's existed for over a century.
0:54.3	And there were moments when this fear was completely justified.
0:59.3	So today, we're going to talk you through the surprising, curious, and sometimes disgusting
1:04.8	history of the fear of vaccines.
1:08.5	He is what you're in for.
1:09.5	And you would take your baby home and really, really hope that the wounds didn't become
1:15.7	infected and that the arm didn't fall off.
1:18.7	The problem with doctors is that they are likely not to tell you the truth.
1:23.4	I know, for sure, I will never vaccinate her.
1:28.2	It's all coming up after the break.
1:35.2	Hey there.
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