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Talk Is Jericho

The Rise & Fall of Muhammad Hassan with Marc Copani

Talk Is Jericho

Chris Jericho

Tv & Film, Sports, Wrestling

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Former WWE Superstar Marc Copani, best known as the controversial Muhammad Hassan, joins for an unfiltered conversation about his short but impactful wrestling career, and the real-life events that brought it to a sudden end. He relives his early days in OVW training alongside John Cena and Brock Lesnar, what he learned from OVW’s Jim Cornette and Rip Rogers, how and when he got called up to the WWE main roster, his initial reaction to the Muhammad Hassan character pitch, and what it was like generating so much heat in a post 9/11 world.  He also talks about feuding with Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels, and The Undertaker, Eddie Guerrero, his relationship with Vince McMahon, his close friendship with Shawn Daivari, navigating Wrestler’s Court, and how the infamous SmackDown segment that aired after the London bombings effectively ended his WWE run. Plus, Marc discusses life after wrestling including his move to Los Angeles, his creative project with the late Shad Gaspard, and how he found a new purpose in education as a high school administrator in upstate New York. Thank you for supporting our sponsors! DeleteMe: Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you text JERICHO to 64000 Full video episode available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ChrisJerichoFozzy 👍Don’t forget to Like, Subscribe, and hit the 🔔 to stay updated on new episodes! More from Talk Is Jericho: 📸 Instagram: @chrisjerichofozzy | @talkisjericho 🐦 Twitter/X: @IAmJericho | @TalkIsJericho 🌐 Website: https://www.webisjericho.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Talk is Jericho, baby.

0:05.4

Talk is Jericho.

0:08.5

Talk is Jericho, Mama, talk is me.

0:13.4

All right.

0:14.2

So we are here with Mark Capani.

0:17.7

I can't even remember the last time I saw you.

0:19.6

Probably 15, 20 years maybe.

0:21.9

At Los Angeles, probably about 15 years ago, yeah, easily. In Los Angeles, did I see you there?

0:26.9

Did we meet up there? I remember seeing you in L.A. I think we were out. You guys must have been in

0:31.0

town and we were out at a bar somewhere. As we tend to do. Long time ago. But to to connect with you man and obviously uh dark side

0:40.2

of the ring is on and the topic of you and the mohammed hassein gimmick i really like this

0:46.2

episode because a lot of obviously the dark sides have a lot of sad endings where people

0:51.2

have passed away or whatever may be yours ends up as a happy ending you're

0:56.1

very successful now as a teacher as a coach and we look like you're in your principal's office right

1:01.0

now or something along those lines i am borrowing somebody else's office because it's a lot nicer

1:05.7

but what is it that you do now but i am i am in the building I'm the director of human resources in the Fulton City School District.

1:13.5

So it's a small city school district, about 720 employees, about 3,000 students.

1:19.1

It's about 20, 30 minutes north of Syracuse, New York.

1:22.6

And that's, and once again, congratulations.

1:24.5

That's very, very cool that you do that.

1:27.1

Have you seen the episode of

1:28.9

Darkside yet? I did. They sent me a screening and I watched it with my wife and then I watched

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