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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

The Right to Bear Arms and Terrorize Your Partner

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.6 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Next week, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in one of the most significant—and potentially deadly—cases of the term - United States v Rahimi. The case, a follow on from New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen, has the potential to weaponize the court’s Second Amendment extremism against victims of domestic abuse and protect adjudicated abusers. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by gun safety advocate Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, to find out the potential real life-and-death consequences of pursuing originalism literally back to when women were property and muskets were muzzle-loaded. They also discuss why the right is so keen to pursue gun rights through the courts, rather than through the democratic process. 


In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Dahlia is joined by Jay Willis, editor in chief of Balls and Strikes, to discuss oral arguments in a pair of cases concerning First Amendment concerns when politicians block dissenting voices on social media, the Trump-related trademark t-shirt dispute that is barely SFW, and Justice Clarence Thomas’s personal luxury RV loan forgiveness program. 


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0:00.0

Hi and welcome back to amicus this is Slate's podcast about the courts and the

0:07.3

law and the rule of law and the Supreme Court I'm Dahlia Lythwick and I cover

0:12.1

some of those things at Slate and we are back on the

0:15.7

scotous beat this week looking ahead to a case that is keeping us up at night.

0:21.5

Next week the court's going to hear arguments in a crucially

0:24.1

important follow-on to that big gun case, Bruin, from two terms ago. So we

0:30.0

thought we'd go deep this week on the connections between guns, domestic violence, spousal

0:36.6

violence, and mass murder.

0:39.2

Because while this case, Rahimi, raises big questions about just how far some of the justices are prepared to go

0:46.9

in pushing extreme originalism upon the nation.

0:50.6

There are also really urgent life and death questions about guns and intimate

0:55.8

partner violence that we would like to answer first. In order to do that, we're

1:00.4

going to speak to a legend in the gun regulation space, Shannon Watts.

1:07.0

Watts, founder of Mom's Demand Action, became one of the country's most influential gun safety activists launching her game-changing group in the days after the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre.

1:19.0

In about half of the cases where domestic violence petitions are granted, guns are present, right?

1:24.9

And so that makes the threat of injury or death exponentially higher.

1:29.8

This past week, the Supreme Court heard two important social media cases testing

1:34.3

the First Amendment constraints on public officials who want to block their

1:38.4

critics from their personal social media pages as well as a rather astonishing debate on the question of whether

1:45.2

the phrase, quote, Trump too small and the attendant teeny tiny hand gesture that goes with

1:50.9

it might be trademarked.

1:53.4

Big sigh.

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