We need to listen to people who disagree with us. Hey, former Congressman Joe Walsh here,

I have a podcast called White Flag with Joe Walsh. Every week, I sit down with people who do not think like me,

and we model how to have respectful conversations right with

people we disagree with learn to understand we got to do this if we want to

keep this democracy going listen to White Flag with Joe Walsh.

It's a daily podcast, or a weekly conversation,

but you can catch a little something every day,

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White Flag with Joe Walsh,

check it out, honest, uncomfortable conversations.

The alt-right movement has recruited,

indoctrinated, and built networks of power in politics by surrounding itself with misinformation,

disinformation, and outright crazy. Now in doing so, some associated with the community have come to realize that their values don't necessarily align with this movement.

So my guest today is Tina Wynne, National Correspondent for Puck, covering Donald Trump and the right.

Previously, Tina was a White House correspondent and reporter for Political, a staff reporter for Vanity

Fair Hive, and an editor at Mediate.

Her new book, this is what we're gonna get into,

the Maga diaries, my surreal adventures

inside the right wing

and how I got out, covers her own journey,

her background, her story into this world

in which she talks about and details the history of the alt-right,

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