I just think we're living in a day and age right now where people need hope. People need

to know the grace of God. People wonder over and over again, what's the message of Jesus?

It's really simple. Jesus Christ, he did not come for the healthy, he

came for the sick. He did not come to condemn the world. He came to save the world.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast.

Today's guests express how their relationships through joys and tears have stood the test of time

because of an unwavering commitment to God and the ones they love.

And as they've learned what keeps a relationship strong, they have dedicated their lives to share

this message with others.

Pastor Rich Wilkerson Jr. and entertainers David and Tamela Mann.

First up, Rich Wilkerson Jr. is the pastor at Voo Church in Miami, Florida.

Rich descends from four generations of pastors on both sides of his family, including David

Wilkerson, the writer of the classic Christian book, The Cross, and the Switchblade.

Today, Rich tells us how he forged his own way in ministry amidst his family's rich legacy and about his

latest book, Friend of Sinners, Why Jesus Cares More About Relationship than about Perfection.

He also opens up on the painful struggle he and his wife endured in their young marriage that lasted nearly a decade.

My name is Rich Wilkerson Jr. and I lead Voo Church in Miami, Florida with my wife, Don Chary.

Voo Church is a new church plant just three years old and it's really in the heart of

Miami. Voo is just short for rendezvous. People always ask us, what does Voo mean?

Is that even a real church name?

Ronde vu means the meeting place, but we quickly discovered that people had a hard time

spelling the word and googling the word.

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