I'm at that stage in my life now that I really want to leave footprints behind about what it really cost to be who you are

and how to survive. Questions that people don't see because they see you only through the

window of how they understand it to be but life is much bigger than 30 minutes on

television or our own television life is much bigger than 8 hours on a job.

And sometimes we make assumptions about people we work with or live next door to,

when we see on TV that are not correct assumptions about what their whole life is like.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast.

Our guests today find solace in the scripture from Romans 828 that says and we know that in all things

God works for the good of those who love him who have been called according to his purpose.

Pastor and author Bishop T.D. J, and worship leader, Don Mowen.

Up first is TD Jakes, author, film producer, and senior pastor at the Potter's House Church in Dallas, Texas.

Bishop Jakes has seen his ministries soar to great heights, speaking in front of thousands

and touching many more lives through his various ministries.

Yet, through some of his most successful days, Bishop Jakes has experienced what he calls life's crushing moments and his status as a well-known minister has not kept him immune from pain and despair.

With compassion and understanding Bishop Jakes relates his own experience of being

crushed and helps us reconcile difficult times with God's promise that he will work all things together

for our good.

My name is T.D. Jakes, Thomas Dexter Jakes.

I'm the senior pastor of the Potter's house.

I'm a film producer and author and entrepreneur.

People often make that mistake of thinking

that because the person is on television

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