T. D. Jakes and Don Moen: Where Is God When Our Dreams Are Crushed?
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🗓️ 20 June 2019
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
We all have seasons when we feel crushed by the weight of our problems. A job loss. A loved one grows seriously ill. An unexpected bill in the mail. In the middle of overwhelming anxiety, it’s hard to remember, let alone believe, the promise God gives us in Romans 8:28: “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose.” But today’s guests, Bishop T. D. Jakes and worship leader Don Moen, remind us that in the middle of our problems, we can take a step back and remember that “God will make a way,” and He can redeem everything, even our darkest moments, for His glory.
Links, Products and Resources Mentioned:
T. D. Jakes’ book, Crushing: God Turns Pressure Into Power
Don Moen’s book, God Will Make A Way: Finding His Hope in Your Story
Interview Quotes:
“The cross itself was a horrific emblem of suffering and shame. It was not something that Jesus enjoyed. The Bible says He despised the shame of it, but for the joy that was set before Him, He endured the suffering of the cross.” - T. D. Jakes
“There may be some things that are bad that still work together for [our] good.” - T. D. Jakes
“You have to be gentle with people that are hurt. You have to be empathetic.” - T. D. Jakes
“I'm at that stage of my life now that I really want to leave footprints behind about what it really costs to be who you are and how to survive crushings that people don't see.” - T. D. Jakes
“God develops us through the crushing. God develops the world around us. . . . There will be something good that comes out of it, if you can resist the temptation to become bitter and take the more difficult choice of becoming better.” - T. D. Jakes
“I did not ever try to be an artist. I never wanted to be an artist.” - Don Moen
“And as human vessels, we need to just get out of the way and let God do what He wants to do.” - Don Moen
”God will make a way where there seems to be no way.” - Don Moen
“We look at setbacks in our lives sometimes as way too permanent, but God uses these setbacks to bring us to the place where He wants us to be, to help transform us into the men and women He wants us to be.” - Don Moen
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| 0:00.0 | I'm at that stage in my life now that I really want to leave footprints behind about what it really cost to be who you are |
| 0:18.6 | and how to survive. Questions that people don't see because they see you only through the |
| 0:25.3 | window of how they understand it to be but life is much bigger than 30 minutes on |
| 0:31.0 | television or our own television life is much bigger than 8 hours on a job. |
| 0:36.0 | And sometimes we make assumptions about people we work with or live next door to, |
| 0:40.0 | when we see on TV that are not correct assumptions about what their whole life is like. |
| 0:47.0 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. |
| 0:49.4 | Our guests today find solace in the scripture from Romans 828 that says and we know that in all things |
| 0:55.2 | God works for the good of those who love him who have been called according to his purpose. |
| 1:00.8 | Pastor and author Bishop T.D. J, and worship leader, Don Mowen. |
| 1:05.0 | Up first is TD Jakes, author, film producer, and senior pastor at the Potter's House Church in Dallas, Texas. |
| 1:12.0 | Bishop Jakes has seen his ministries soar to great heights, speaking in front of thousands |
| 1:17.0 | and touching many more lives through his various ministries. |
| 1:20.0 | Yet, through some of his most successful days, Bishop Jakes has experienced what he calls life's crushing moments and his status as a well-known minister has not kept him immune from pain and despair. |
| 1:31.0 | With compassion and understanding Bishop Jakes relates his own experience of being |
| 1:35.4 | crushed and helps us reconcile difficult times with God's promise that he will work all things together |
| 1:41.6 | for our good. |
| 1:43.0 | My name is T.D. Jakes, Thomas Dexter Jakes. |
| 1:48.0 | I'm the senior pastor of the Potter's house. |
| 1:50.0 | I'm a film producer and author and entrepreneur. |
| 1:55.6 | People often make that mistake of thinking |
| 1:57.9 | that because the person is on television |
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