Nobody was a capitalist in that moment. Nobody stampeded, nobody shoved, nobody competed to evacuate.

A paraplegic accountant was carried down 58 floors by his coworkers.

A blind newspaper seller was walked home by strangers.

Solidarity is so deep and extinctions that before you can even think you slow down to be with them.

And that says something about human nature.

Yeah. I'm Autumn Brown, front woman of the soul pop band, Autumn, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons, and a healing justice facilitator for social movements living on Dakota and Inishinaabe land currently

known as Minneapolis.

And I'm Adrienne Marie Brown, a luscious black queer witch writer Auntie, an apocalyptic cosmic optimist, and a gardener of healing ideas.

I live in the land of the Shikori, Skorura, Tuscarora, Ino, and Lumpy People is currently known as Durham, North Carolina.

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We have a really special guest today.

I feel like we say that, like, our guests tend to be special.

And this is a very special conversation with someone who feels like in the constellation,

the cosmic constellation with us, of thinking about the end of the world and the beginning of the

new world and that transition place in the between. So today we have a prolific writer of the

heart and student of solidarity, Rebecca Solnit, a longtime climate and human rights activist

who serves on the boards of oil change international and third act.

Solnit is the author of over 20 books, prolific, prolific, including hope in the dark, men

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