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Hello and welcome to The Spectator podcast. I'm Katie Balls. It's safe to say that the Brexit negotiations haven't gone exactly to plan.

The Tories are down in the latest polls,

but UKIP is up. I'll be witnessing the beginning of UKIP's return. Meanwhile, Australians are

stuck between a rock and a hard place, as China and America continue to bicker, and Cosmey Landisman

complains about modern parenting. You don't have to be following Brexit very closely

to know that it could be going a bit better. May has lost the main Brexiteers in her cabinet,

and Jacob Rees-Mogg is leading a leaver's revolt from the backbenchers. If you voted for a hard

Brexit, you would understandably be worried. Is this what explains a recent increase in

UK's popularity in the polls?

In this week's cover article, Academic and UKIP expert, Matthew Goodvin, writes that the party

is making a comeback. Matthew joins me now, together with Joe Twyman, pollster, and director of Delta

poll. So Matthew, why are the UK Independence Party making a comeback? Well, I think, firstly,

if you look at the opinion polls over the last week and a half, two weeks, we've certainly seen

an uptick in support for UKIP. But I would argue that the broader currents at the moment are

certainly flowing in that direction. We've got a high level of disillusionment among conservatives with the

Chequers deal on Brexit. We've got the polling at the weekend showing that around 38% of the

country is saying it would be potentially up for a party that was unequivocally committed

to Brexit. And we've got those unresolved grievances that led to Brexit in the first place,

that we're still not talking too much about how to reform Britain's immigration policy,

how to make our political system more representative of groups like the working class and so on.

So I think overall the demand is certainly there. The million dollar question is can UKIP or a

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