Welcome to Think Bivocally, Conversations on Faith and Culture, a podcast from

Talbot School Theology at Biola University. I'm your host, Sean McDowell,

Professor of Apologetics.

Well, we have a guest today that you will definitely recognize

because he's been on the show before,

but also is one of the leading philosophers, apologists,

scientists today, and really could be considered one of the founding thinkers of the

intelligent design movement has written some New York Times best-selling books such as Darwin's

doubt but has a new book out called Return of the God hypothesis that we're going to jump into.

So Dr. Stephen Meyer, thanks for joining us.

It's awfully nice to be talking to you and talking to you again, Sean.

Thank you. Oh, my pleasure. Well your book again

Return to the God hypothesis is fantastic. I do this little Instagram post where I do a book of

the week where I pick a book that shifted my thinking and your book was featured

on this because I think it's just so timely and insightful and I want as many of our listeners

to pick it up.

So let's jump in with a title.

You call it Return to the God hypothesis. What is God returning from?

Right. Well, God never went anywhere, but our thinking about God has changed in response to our

response to scientific evidence and our approach to science.

And you're right, the title of the book invites the telling of a story and the story is that in the period of the

scientific revolution from roughly 1500 to 1750. Modern science in its contemporary form where the systematic methods of investigating

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