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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

The Retrial of Karen Read | What To Expect with Linda Kenney Baden

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Linda Kenney Baden, a former prosecutor and private defense attorney to dissect the legal intricacies, discrepancies, and various ethical issues surrounding the trial of Karen Read. They cover the problems with evidence collection, the lead investigator's conduct, and the lack of a clear cause of death. Sheryl and Linda also discuss the role of experts in the retrial, what could be expected during the new trial, and the emotional toll on both Read and O'Keefe's families.

On January 29, 2022, Karen Read is accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, with her SUV during a snow storm. Read's second trial is now set to begin with jury selection on April 1, 2025 after months of additional pretrial hearings following the mistrial.

Guest Bio and Links:

Linda Kenney Baden is a former prosecutor and seasoned criminal defense attorney known for her work on high-profile cases such as Phil Spector, Casey Anthony, and Aaron Hernandez. She is a contributor to Law & Crime and the Huffington Post, and co-hosts coverage on Justice Served TV. She brings decades of legal expertise to the public discourse on justice and ethics in the courtroom.

Listeners can learn more about Linda Kenney Baden at her website, on X @KenneyBaden

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
  • (1:15) Sheryl welcomes guest, and former prosecutor Kinda Kenney Baden to Zone 7
  • (2:00) Discussion on case coverage and high-profile trials
  • (3:30) Analyzing the evidence and prosecution's strategy
  • (6:30) Ethical concerns and prosecution tactics
  • (13:15) “ I looked at what they did in the first trial, but I was stunned by what they didn't do.” - Sheryl McCollum
  • (13:45) Glass evidence and shards that don’t match
  • (15:00) Crime scene failures and inconsistencies
  • (18:30)  ”As somebody that's been in this business for 42 years, I have never in my life seen a homicide case with a lead detective that didn't go to the scene, doesn't have chain of custody, has a confession that nobody bothered to write down, has glass they can't explain, has an injury they can't explain, has a tail light busted they can't explain.” - Sheryl McCollum
  • (19:00) Ethics of prosecutors 
  • (23:00) Battle of the experts 
  • (23:30) The Sandra Birchmore case
  • (27:00) The Proctor factor - bias and controversy
  • (30:30) Hypotheticals and jury considerations
  • (36:00) Trial two predictions and new expert strategy
  • (40:00) Trial round two - what to expect
  • (44:30)  ”40% of homicides go unsolved. You know, that's not a very good record. And also, 95% of convictions come from plea bargains, which is often coerced.  It's like we have the worst of both worlds. We don't convict the guilty enough and we coerce the innocent too much.” -Bill Maher
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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0:00.0

Karen Reid, Karen Reed, Karen Reed, Karen Reed. Y'all, this case right here,

0:13.7

y'all know it. She's accused of hitting her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe,

0:20.4

with her SUV. It was January of the 29th,

0:24.1

2022. She left him to die in the snow in a blizzard. Now that's what the prosecution is saying.

0:32.8

Now that first trial, I predicted she was walking out of there. I did not hear one thing that came

0:41.7

out of that first trial that led me to believe there was a murder. We have an expert

0:49.1

tonight to help us because as y'all know she's being tried for a second time, which I incorrectly predicted would not happen.

0:59.6

Because after the first trial, I thought there ain't no way. They're going to do this again.

1:05.8

They've lost the lead investigator. He wasn't fired yet, but we all knew that was coming.

1:12.4

Y'all, this case has got drinking, a telllight, a dog bite, cell phones, chain of custody, text messages, search warrants, a blizzard, more text messages.

1:23.1

Our guest, tonight, is a former prosecutor, a private defense attorney, somebody that you know

1:30.2

host on law and crime contributes to the Huffington Post.

1:35.1

They have worked sex crimes, murder, death penalty cases, forensic issues, civil rights issues,

1:42.3

employment issues, and if that ain't diverse enough, gender harassment issues.

1:48.0

This person is one half of a power couple, honey.

1:52.2

Tonight, I am so honored to have Linda, Kenny Biden.

1:58.9

Ms. Thang, Miss Jersey girl, welcome to Zone 7. Wow, can I come back like every day?

2:05.6

I kind of need that. That's like fabulous. Thank you so much, Cheryl. Yeah, this, this case.

2:10.7

We've been covering my streaming partner, I, Michael Bryant, who has an Emmy, you know, God forbid,

2:16.8

I should cover anything on a streaming channel because I'm a lawyer, right has an Emmy, you know, God forbid, I should cover anything on a streaming

2:18.7

channel because I'm a lawyer, right? I mean, what I know about streaming? But I do know a little

2:25.9

bit about trying cases. And we've been covering it on Justice Serve TV. I mean, I never thought

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