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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

3.28.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: The Balaclava, the Knife, and the Mistake: The Evidence Against Bryan Kohberger

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum break down how small forensic details like a balaclava, a knife sheath, and an Amazon purchase, can construct a damning mosaic of guilt. Sheryl emphasizes the importance of visual testimony and the nuanced strategies prosecutors must deploy when sequencing their witnesses. Nancy and Sheryl draw parallels from cases like Casey Anthony, Ted Bundy, and Lori Vallow, showing how digital footprints, careless mistakes, and chilling premeditation can expose even the most calculated crimes. Lastly, the two probe how character witnesses, or the lack thereof, may influence the perception of innocence or guilt. 

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
  • (0:15) Happy Birthday to host, Sheryl McCollum (actual birthday March 25th)
  • (2:00) Updates on Bryan Kohberger case
  • (2:25)  ”Don't order your crime doings on Amazon or leave a credit card trail.”
  • (3:00) The balaclava evidence and eyewitness testimony 
  • (8:00) Why the drawing matters 
  • (15:00) Flashbacks to Lori Vallow and amazon evidence 
  • (17:00) Casey Anthony’s perjury and misleading evidence 
  • (24:00) Why the state can’t introduce bad character 
  • (27:00) Traffic tickets leading to arrests 
  • (29:00) “ You can't hide your own eyebrows. You can't hide your own DNA. You can't hide your own height. Dylan Mortenson saw him within feet. Those eyebrows, she'll never forget 'em, and the biggest mistake he made was not leaving his DNA on that sheath, was not using his own card, was not using his own debit card, but leaving that witness alive.”
  • (29:30) Witness strategy, mistakes, and what comes next

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the crime roundup.

0:11.0

Y'all, I'm going to get right to it.

0:13.0

Nancy Grace, come on in here, honey.

0:15.2

Happy birthday to you.

0:19.2

Did you think I was not going to say anything?

0:22.2

I love this singing more than saying anything.

0:24.3

You know, it's all about you.

0:27.3

As it should be, ma'am.

0:29.2

I am just your prod.

0:31.2

Tell me what you did on your birthday.

0:33.2

Well, you know, we're still celebrating.

0:34.7

I get the whole month.

0:35.9

What are y'all doing?

0:36.8

Well, we have had dinners.

0:38.3

We've had trips.

0:39.4

I have one more trip.

0:41.2

What trip?

0:42.0

What trip?

0:42.4

Well, I don't know if I can tell on hair, but won't know.

0:46.8

I do a little overnight thing.

0:50.5

And then the kids have a surprise adventure this weekend.

0:54.2

I don't know the destination.

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