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Johnny Bertka is president and CEO of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. Before that, he was

executive director and acting editor of the American Conservative magazine. His writings have appeared

in many places, including First Things, The Washington Post, American Mind of the Washington Post.

He has helped democracy not die in darkness

and in the intercollegiate review. Welcome, Johnny. Thank you for joining us. Thanks so much for

having me, Mark. Now, I see a lot of writing that you're doing there. You don't have much writing,

time for writing right now, do you? You're kind of busy, aren't you?

I'm incredibly busy, yeah, running ISI. We've got about 150 lectures, seminars, debates, conferences that we do on and off campuses every year. So writing is actually my, probably my first love, but I don't have quite as much time for it now as I

did in the past. Let me ask, what was ISI created to do long ago? God, what was about 60 years

ago now? Almost 70. So it was 1953. It was founded by Frank Chauterov, who was a libertarian journalist. William F. Buckley Jr. was the first

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