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The Lawfare Podcast

The Report, Episode II: "Hack, Dump, Divide"

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Last week, we released the first episode of this narrative audio documentary, which tells the story Robert S. Mueller lays out in his famous 448 page document. This week, Mueller testified before the House of Representatives in what many people hoped would be hearings that brought the document to life. Whatever role Mueller’s testimony may or may not have played in that regard, we are pleased to bring you the second episode of our effort to bring the Mueller Report into narrative form.

Episode 2 focuses on the Russian hacking operation, the stealing of documents and emails from the DNC, DCCC and figures associated with the Clinton campaign, and the leaks of the stolen materials timed to impact the US election. The episode tells the story of the GRU operations, the Russian attempts to cover their tracks, and the involvement of Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

It features Thomas Rid, Ben Buchanan, and Laura Rosenberger.

We are grateful to the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the Democracy Fund for their support for this project. 

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings,

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rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath.

0:30.0

Previously on the report.

0:33.0

The defendants allegedly conducted what they called information warfare against the United States.

0:39.0

The intelligence community calls it active measures.

0:42.0

We were dry tinder. It was something that was really easy for them to stoke.

0:46.0

The clearly stated that the Russian government was in fact behind the interference operations that we were seeing at the time.

0:53.0

So this is an arms race. I mean, they're going to keep on getting better at this.

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I want to begin by saying thank you to all of you across the country who have volunteered your time.

1:06.0

You have voted to make Hillary Clinton the nominee of the Democratic Party. This is your victory.

1:13.0

It's July 2016.

1:16.0

John Podesta is running a presidential campaign.

1:21.0

It's going well. His candidate is about to clinch the Democratic Party nomination.

1:26.0

But let's go back to several months before all of this.

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Back to March 2016.

1:32.0

Podesta is sitting at his computer.

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He opens an email.

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It says something is wrong with his passport.

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