Greetings and salutations. Welcome to Life and Books and Everything. I'm Kevin DeYoung,

senior pastor at Christ's Covenant Church in Matthews, North Carolina. Today I am joined by my guest,

Matthew Barrett. We are going to talk about his massive book, The Reformation as Renewal, retrieving the one holy Catholic and apostolic

church. Matthew is professor of Christian theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological.

Maybe that's reversed seminary in Kansas City.

So he is a Chiefs, Royals, et cetera, fan.

But also I read an L.A. Lakers fan because he hails from California, he's written number

books on Trinity and other doctrines

in history and married four kids. Is that right? That's right. One wife, four kids, and is doing

a lot of impressive theological and historical work. Matthew, great to have you on LBE.

Hey, Kevin, thanks for having me. And I have to say, you really did your homework.

A Lakers fan, I mean, that's, most people do not pick up on that, but very, very true.

So you're from California? I was actually born in Los Angeles. Yeah. And so I, you know,

it's, I know it's very annoying to a lot of people, but

being a Laker fan is just, you're born with this birth certificate. What can you do?

I know. Well, I saw that and at first I thought, yeah, that is annoying. What do you mean? Laker?

And then, oh, that's right. He was from California. So if you come by

it honestly, that's fine. All right. We are talking about the Reformation as renewal. If you're watching

this, this is a big, thick book. It is almost a thousand pages when you get all of the

bibliography and all of the indices in there.

So my first question, we're going to jump in real quick to what the book is about.

But first, congratulations.

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