Greetings and salutations.

Welcome back to Life and Books and Everything.

I'm Kevin DeYoung, senior pastor at Christ's Covenant Church in Matthews, North Carolina.

And today I am joined by my guest, Rosaria. Rosaria? No, Rosaria. That's what I thought.

That's what I said. It's the Italian A. Rosaria. You could do that too.

Okay. Good. And that would that would, then I think you were my grandmother. But anyway.

Well, I don't want to be that. We don't want gender confusions on this. That's right.

Rosaria Butterfield.

Five lies of our anti-Christian age is the book that we're going to talk about.

Hopefully, most of our listeners know of Rosaria and some of her other books, the secret thoughts of an unlikely convert, openness unhindered.

The gospel comes with a house key. She's an author,

pastor's wife, homeschool mother, former professor of English and women's studies at Syracuse.

We may talk about that. And I forgot about this. You have your PhD from the Ohio State University.

That's right. Don't forget that article adjective. They may have dropped the article adjective,

actually, since I graduated in the Dark Ages. Oh, no, they still haven't. In fact, they were trying to,

a few years ago, they tried to trademark the the. They couldn't do it. But Crossway, who's published

this wonderful book, actually, it just says Ohio State University. So there are some Buckeyes

that are going to want the

the Rosario. I wish that's the only controversy about this book that we could talk about.

Yes. Well, we won't talk about that one. We will get into many others. But let's start here.

And I don't think you get tired of this question, but you're asked it often. But it gives you

an opportunity

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