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Dirty John

The Real Thing

Dirty John

L.A. Times Studios

Los Angeles, Bravo, La Times, Christopher Goffard, News, Society & Culture, Chris Goffard, Los Angeles Times, True Crime

4.642.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2017

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Debra Newell, an interior designer in Southern California, meets John Meehan on an over-50 dating site. His profile looks exciting: Anesthesiologist, divorced, Christian. She falls in love fast. But her children dislike him and warn her that his stories don’t add up. A psychologist advises Debra to set firmer boundaries with her kids, saying she has a right to be happy.

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0:00.0

A listener note, this story contains adult content and language.

0:12.0

There are a total of 13 stab-wantuts which have penetrated the body. They are all arbitrarily numbered from 1 to 13.

0:18.0

There are 8 wounds noted in the left side and upper back in the shoulder and scapular area, where one number one is on the top of the left shoulder.

0:25.0

I'm sitting in the office of a man who prosecutes murders for a living.

0:29.0

His name is Matt Murphy. He's a veteran assistant district attorney who handles homicides out of Newport Beach, California.

0:36.0

If you're from somewhere else and have a mental picture of Orange County about an hour south of LA, Newport Beach is probably part of that image.

0:45.0

It's the side of the county that the tourist guides want you to see.

0:51.0

Pacific coast highway runs through it, luxury shopping, piers and surf shops and plastic surgeons, yachts and cliffside mansions.

1:00.0

I used to cover the city as a crime reporter for a local newspaper. There weren't a lot of murders, maybe one a year, two or three in a very bad year.

1:10.0

Greed or lust figured prominently in the most memorable ones.

1:15.0

These days, if you're one of the rare people who meet a violent death in Newport Beach, Matt Murphy is the prosecutor who will hear about it.

1:23.0

The homicide case that landed on his desk in the summer of 2016 was particularly violent and it was unique in his experience.

1:32.0

Number five is on the left, more to the upper arm area. Number six, seven and eight are close to the midline region of the upper back. All of these stab wounds are superficial wounds.

1:41.0

They have all been sutured by metallic stab.

1:44.0

Murphy is reading the autopsy report, which is part of how he assesses whether there's a prosecutable offense.

1:50.0

A homicide is the killing of one human being by another. He had to decide whether it was a crime.

1:57.0

Well, number 13, which is the fetal wound, is the upper left eyelid, one centimeter in size. Only room number nine has some bruising around it and another bruise noted around 12 and 13.

2:07.0

So when you review something like this, what it tells you is this young woman thought like hell.

2:24.0

From the Los Angeles Times and Wondery, this is Dirty John. I'm Christopher Gofford.

2:38.0

Part one, the real thing.

2:45.0

In the fall of 2014, Debra Newell was flipping through profiles on our time a dating site for singles over 50. 84 strangers wanted to get to know her.

2:58.0

She took a chance on three guys. She had coffee with one, dinner with another, breakfast with a third.

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