At one point he took the phone from his ear and he just allowed the rest of the

camera to appear and she was ranting and he goes, isn't she magnificent?

Well, I think it's fair to say that she is divisive.

I think that's true.

The biggest myth was that she was somehow America's poodle, Ronald Reagan's poodle,

but they had some quite heated disagreements.

The flirtatiousness, the fact that she used that very effectively, her feminine charms.

How much truth is there to that? Oh, a huge amount.

Cross-Armiteron, the president of France at the time, he had a huge respect for her, and he described

as having the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe. Where do you think she might

have stood on the big issues of today, Mass immigration, the impact of illegal immigration.

She would have probably done something far more hardline than any British government has done.

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To join us. Ian Dale, welcome back to Trigonometry. Good to be back. It's good to have you on. We're

going to talk about a very specific thing with you today,

which is your book and Margaret Thatcher. Really great to have you back on the show. Enjoyed reading

the book. It's kind of a quick access to some of the greatest hits, if you like, for some people

of our generation who didn't grow up under during that time. But I actually remember a long time ago, you and I had lunch.

And I remember you telling me that you were a fan of Margaret Thatcher.

And I at that point basically spent five years on the comedy circuit listening to comedians

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