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Negotiate Anything

The Real Rules of Power & Influence — Masterclass

Negotiate Anything

American Negotiation Institute

Education, Business, Self-improvement

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

In this masterclass, three leaders from three completely different worlds — engineering, politics, and the creator economy — reveal how power, influence, and persuasion actually work when you don’t have formal authority. Each guest tackles the same question from a different angle: How do you get people to say yes when they don’t have to listen to you? Featured Episodes Mechanical engineer and leadership advocate Amreen Rahman breaks down how influence is built slowly through credibility, advocacy, relationships, and the quiet power of likability. Public affairs executive Jade Davis shares hard-earned lessons on leadership humility, managing egos, adjusting your role as you rise, and persuading up, down, and across an organization. And creator-entrepreneur Jay Clouse takes you inside the psychology of trust, the art of building an audience one person at a time, and why confidence — not pressure — drives people to buy, follow, or believe in your work. Across these conversations, you’ll learn how to cultivate allies, navigate organizational politics, sell your ideas without sounding salesy, and communicate with confidence instead of ego. A masterclass for anyone who wants to lead, persuade, and move people — even when you’re not the one holding the authority.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this negotiation masterclass edition of Negotiate Anything.

0:04.0

With over 1,600 episodes featuring some of the world's brightest minds,

0:08.3

we've carefully curated three powerful conversations for you.

0:12.2

What makes this so special is that you'll hear how different experts from different industries

0:16.5

approach the same challenge in their own unique ways.

0:20.4

Our goal is to give you multiple perspectives so you can build their own unique ways. Our goal is to give you multiple perspectives

0:22.5

so you can build your own unique style. Success doesn't look the same for everyone, and in this

0:27.8

masterclass, you will see exactly why. Let's dive in. Amarine, thanks for joining us today.

0:34.3

Thank you, Poumeng for inviting me to your show. Really appreciate it. Yeah,

0:38.3

it's my pleasure. So how would you get it started by telling us a little bit about yourself and what

0:42.1

you do? Absolutely. My name is, I'm Ray Ramon. I'm a mechanical engineer by profession. And

0:48.1

over the last decade, I have worked in many industries starting my career in mining. I worked in the oil sands of

0:57.0

Alberta. Then I worked in gas utility, gas distribution. And then I made the pivot into telecommunication.

1:04.9

So whenever somebody asks me about career advice, I say, hmm, if you're ready for a mosaic or a puzzle, then that's what

1:12.6

you're going to get with me because I have transitioned many times across multiple industries

1:17.7

as an engineer, but also as a people leader later on in my career. And I've always noticed

1:24.1

that BIPOC women or black indigenous and women of color were fairly rare in STEM

1:31.2

and also in the workplace overall and even less and less visibility as we move on or progress

1:37.1

into the first level leadership and beyond that. So it really made me think about the challenges

1:43.9

faced by visible minority women

1:46.3

in the Canadian workplace. And I became really passionate to promote diversity and inclusion,

1:52.7

but also excellence, by-pot excellence within the workplace. And so I started my podcast to interview

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