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The Real History of Penal Substitutionary Atonement

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.93K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2019

⏱️ 69 minutes

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A lot of leaders who reject Penal Substitution will say that it was invented by Calvin or Anselm and that the early church held to Christus Victor or Ransom theories of the atonement. This turns out to be a painful distortion of history. I mean, this is pure historical revisionism in the name of teaching bad theology! I was shocked to find out how badly church history has been twisted by progressive leaders who, whether they realize it or not, are teaching unbiblical views of how we are saved. In this video you'll hear quotes from many church fathers on the topic of whether the cross included a penal and substitutionary aspect. You'll get needed clarity to help you see through the historical revisionism of guys like Greg Boyd, Steve Chalke and others. And you'll be equipped to head into the next video in this series on Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Which will probably be on the topic of "Does the Bible Teach Penal Substitution?" As I add more videos to this PSA playlist I will put them HERE https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHttVR0rkvhBfA-IKrg5SGcp Here's an article on this topic from The Masters Seminary Journal https://www.tms.edu/m/tmsj20i.pdf Here is Gary Williams' defense of his own work on PSA in the early church fathers https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/eq/2011-3_195.pdf Here's Joseph Mitros' content on how people misrepresent the church fathers on this https://www.pdcnet.org/thought/content/thought_1967_0042_0003_0415_0447 If you love this ministry and want to support my ongoing work producing free content to help people learn to think biblically about everything then please click here. https://biblethinker.org/~biblethinker/index.php/donate

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0:00.0

I'm Pastor Mike Winger and this is Bible Thinker the program dedicated to thinking

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biblically about everything.

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Hey welcome to the Tuesday live stream. I'm Pastor Mike Winger, and we're dealing with the topic of penal substitutionary atonement.

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What am I talking about? What is this even about?

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Well, it's about the very meaning of the cross. It's like how Jesus saves us.

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That's the topic, like when you get all the fancy words out of the way. We're talking about how Jesus actually

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Saves our souls for all eternity. That's a huge deal. It's at the heart of Christianity and one side is not playing fair in the modern debate on the topic of how Jesus saves us.

0:38.5

They're not playing fair at all. In fact, they're very underhanded. I'm just being honest here. I'm not mad about it.

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Not at this moment. Sometimes they're underhanded. They use deceitful tactics and they just

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use false information like historical revisionism

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which is going to be the topic of this video in order to kind of trick people into

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swallowing things that aren't true. So this thing, penal substitutionary atonement,

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it's a doctrine about the cross that I think every Bible believing Christian should

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accept and in this series of videos I'm starting right now,

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which I'll link a playlist in the description

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once I add some more content to it.

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In this series of videos,

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I'm going to be giving a defense of this doctrine,

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historically, biblically, philosophically, dealing with rhetoric and moral objections to

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penal substitution and all that stuff.

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And I especially hope you'll listen if you don't hold to this doctrine.

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And if you do, I think you'll find this very empowering and insightful and strengthening to you.

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