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Smart People Podcast

The Real Cost of Dismantling Public Eduction with former U.S. Secretary of Education, John B. King

Smart People Podcast

Smart People Industries

Business, Education, Society & Culture

4.6 • 736 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What if the federal government walked away from public education? That’s not a hypothetical—it’s part of a real plan gaining traction right now. In this episode, we break down what it actually means to defund and dismantle the U.S. Department of Education, and why it could upend the future for millions of students. Former Secretary of Education John B. King Jr. joins us to cut through the noise and explain, in human terms, what’s at risk—from student aid to civil rights protections to the very idea of equal opportunity. We also talk about King’s new book, Teacher by Teacher, and the everyday educators who shape lives in ways most people never see. You’ll hear stories that might remind you of your favorite teacher—and see just how fragile the systems are that allow those stories to happen. If you think this issue doesn’t affect you, think again. Because the decisions being made right now might change everything. Learn more about Dr. King at johnbkingjr.com. Support the Show - Become a Patron! Help us grow and become a Patron today: https://www.patreon.com/smartpeoplepodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:40.2

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0:42.5

So what happens when a presidential administration sets its sights on dismantling public education as we know it?

0:50.2

I mean, that is kind of what's happening, right?

0:52.2

In this episode, we unpack the alarming reality behind current efforts to slash funding

0:58.1

for the U.S. Department of Education.

1:00.5

This is a move that could dramatically reshape student aid, civil rights protections,

1:05.5

and access to quality schooling for millions of Americans.

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Former Secretary of Education, John B. King, Jr.,

1:13.8

joins me to explain what's really at stake in plain human terms. We are also discussing King's

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