The Ratline – Ep 9. The Lucids

Intrigue

BBC

True Crime, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.6 • 4.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2018

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Philippe travels to Albuquerque to meet Tom Lucid Jnr, the son of the CIA agent who recruited Karl Hass, chief source on Project Los Angeles and the man Otto had lunch with on Lake Albano. How much does he know about his father's role in recruiting Nazis and a close relative in Geneva?

A story of life, love and a curious death told by writer and barrister, Philippe Sands. A cold war mystery that reveals shadowy forces at work and consequences that stretch across generations.

Producer: Gemma Newby

Sound Design: Neil Churchill

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0:00.0	Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.
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0:36.0	This is the BBC.
0:40.0	Have you ever heard of something called Project Los Angeles?
0:43.3	No.
0:44.2	Okay. So in 46, the Americans through the CIC
0:51.1	create Project Los Angeles. Okay. C. C. C. C. Create Project Los Angeles.
0:54.0	Okay.
0:55.0	And they hire a number of people to be their
0:57.5	intelligent sources in and around Rome.
1:01.0	Their chief source is Carl Haas. Do you know who Carl Haas's
1:07.4	controller was for Project Los Angeles. Oh.
1:14.0	It was Thomas Lucid.
1:15.0	Ah, you may see straight away that Tom Lucid has a child.
1:21.0	And the child then marries the child of Carl Haas.
1:27.0	Yeah. That's sort of pretty remarkable.
1:29.0	Yes, yes, it is. And it's true, is it?
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