From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome

into another edition of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we'll talk with Dr. Charles

Steele, Associate Professor of Economics and Hermione and Suzanne S. Detweiler Chair in Economics

here at Hillsdale College about the Green New Deal. Peter Wallison will join us to discuss his book

Judicial Fortitude. Dr. Kevin Porteus, professor of politics at Hillsdale, will talk about Congress,

how it worked and why it doesn't. And Clifford Humphrey, a doctoral candidate in politics at

Hillsdale College, will talk to us about the potential impact of driverless cars and other

technology.

Up first is Dr. Charles Steele.

He's Associate Professor of Economics and Herman A. and Suzanne S. Detweiler Chair in

Economics here at Hillsdale College.

Dr. Steele, thanks for joining us.

Great. Thanks for having me here.

So we are going to talk about this Green New Deal that we've heard so much about in the past week to 10 days or so, a proposal to address what the authors say are economic inequalities and also climate change.

And certainly the name of it even harkens back to FDR's New Deal.

Let me start by asking you this.

Do you see similarities here between the New Deal and the Green New Deal?

No, no, I really don't.

I see similarities between this and maybe Mount Seetung's Great Leap Forward.

We could maybe call this a Green Great Leap Forward. And I don't know if people are familiar with the Great Leap Forward. We could maybe call this a green Great Leap Forward. And I don't know if people

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