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The Putin Problem

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The Biden administration is under no illusions that Russia President Vladimir Putin can be a willing partner of the U.S. But what tools remain to check Putin’s ambitions? Guest: Josh Keating, senior editor at Slate and the author of Invisible Countries.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Slack.com slash DHQ. Joe Biden's got this story he likes to tell. Whenever he talks about

0:38.5

Vladimir Putin, Slate Josh Keating has heard this story a couple of times.

0:43.0

It's a very kind of weird story where apparently he met Putin while he was vice president.

0:49.2

Biden told this story to George Stephanopoulos recently.

0:51.9

You said he know he doesn't have a soul. I did say that to him, yes. Josh says, the

0:57.2

thing that's weird about this story, especially the way Biden told it on national television,

1:03.1

is that it's not how we're used to hearing presidents talk about their counterparts

1:07.1

in other countries. I wouldn't be a wise guy. I was alone with him in his office. That's

1:11.8

how it came about. It was when President Bush had said I looked in his eyes and saw a soul.

1:17.8

I said, look through your eyes and I don't think you have a soul. Look back at me and say,

1:21.5

we understand each other. Look, most important thing.

1:25.1

Then Stephanopoulos followed up and asked Biden, does he think Putin is a killer? And Biden,

1:32.3

rather than having an eye, he just said, I do.

1:36.0

Did that surprise you? It is surprising.

1:42.7

Stephanopoulos was definitely setting him up. Normally, a president would have found a way

1:48.1

to kind of answer that without answering it, rather than just saying, yes, I do think

1:52.1

he's a killer.

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