The Psychology of Columbine (Ch 1 - Shooting)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 2 March 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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00:00 Early news coverage09:26 Significant events in early 1999
19:36 What was the origin of 420?
26:13 The plan
39:35 Was this the first school shooting?
43:40 Aftermath
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| 0:00.0 | So, Burdo, after we wrapped on recording our last deep dive on Madeline McCann, we brainstormed |
| 0:07.7 | the next topic that you were going to take on. |
| 0:12.7 | And you threw out an idea that I hadn't heard of before, and you thought, ooh, that |
| 0:18.4 | would be good. |
| 0:19.5 | And I thought, okay, let's go with it. And then, like, |
| 0:21.9 | a couple days later, I was just scrolling through YouTube and the Columbine murders came up, |
| 0:29.5 | the school shooting, you know, it wasn't the original school shooting, but it is the |
| 0:35.2 | turning point of American society of Columbine. |
| 0:40.2 | And I thought, oh, my God. |
| 0:43.1 | We haven't done one about it. |
| 0:44.3 | I mean, part of it is selfish because I just don't want to have to do the research. |
| 0:48.5 | And so you're going to present all this information to me. |
| 0:51.3 | The other thing is, is I thought, I bet you anything Berto knows a shit |
| 0:55.5 | ton about the Columbine shooting. And I texted you and you said, oh my God. Yeah, instantly. |
| 1:02.5 | Yeah, you said that would be perfect. Yeah. You studied it back in the day. I couldn't believe that |
| 1:07.2 | I actually hadn't suggested it already because I was so obsessed with it, |
| 1:11.3 | but actually not when we met, but you know, when we were playing in missionary and I was like, |
| 1:16.7 | I was deep in that rabbit hole. Okay. Yeah. So here we are. Yeah. You've done the research. You've |
| 1:25.6 | reinvigorated your knowledge of it. You've had emotions. You told me that you were crying during... Yeah, I teared up on a specific thing that I'll talk about. So start us off, Berto. All right. This is the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm my host, Dr. Carconda. I'm a therapist, a professor, and an interruptor. Who are you, Berto? My name is Umberto Castagnia, and I teach barking frogs how to sing. Interesting. So where do we start? All right. So here's the deal. I'm going to paint a little bit of a picture. It's April 20th, 1999. It is 8.30 in the morning in Colorado. News director Patty Dennis walks in late |
| 2:05.5 | to a meeting, works out at NBC affiliate K-USA TV. There's some activity, but like it looked |
| 2:13.3 | like a slow day. The claim is, Patty goes on to claim and people witness this that Patty says |
| 2:20.8 | to her staff, I don't know why, but ooh, I feel spot news coming in my fingers. Maybe she said |
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