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Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

The Psychedelic Therapy Revolution | Dr. Scott Shannon | Happiness | E494

Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

YAP Media Network | Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7 • 890 Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve been hearing more about psychedelic therapy and wondering whether it’s a genuine breakthrough for healing—or just the latest mental health trend—you’re not alone. Many people feel curious, hopeful, and skeptical all at once. This conversation is meant to help you slow down, understand what the research actually shows, and think clearly about whether this path is right for you. In this episode of Love, Happiness and Success, I’m joined by psychiatrist and MDMA-assisted psychotherapist Dr. Scott Shannon, founder of Wholeness Center, the largest integrative mental health center in the U.S. Together, we talk about how psychedelic therapy works differently from conventional psychiatric treatment, why it can help disrupt rigid trauma patterns in the brain, and what researchers are learning about long-term healing—not just short-term symptom relief. We also spend time on the parts of this conversation that matter just as much: the risks, the ethical boundaries, and the importance of preparation, professional support, and integration. Psychedelic therapy isn’t appropriate for everyone, and it isn’t something to pursue casually or without careful guidance. This episode offers a grounded, responsible look at how people can think critically about safety, readiness, and what to look for in a qualified provider. As you listen, I invite you to reflect on a few questions: What kind of healing are you actually looking for? What does feeling “better” really mean to you? And how do you decide which growth paths deserve your trust, time, and care? Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Psychedelic therapy explained: promise, research, and real risks 02:31 Why psychedelic therapy differs from traditional psychiatric medication 04:55 Trauma, brain patterns, and how psychedelic therapy disrupts stuck loops 07:00 MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD and why healing can continue long after treatment 12:21 A paradigm shift in mental health: supporting the brain’s capacity to heal 19:30 What MDMA actually does in therapy: safety, self-compassion, and trauma processing 25:47 Mystical experience, meaning, and the spiritual dimension of psychedelic therapy 30:09 Ethical concerns, safety risks, and how to evaluate psychedelic therapy providers 38:00 Preparation and integration: why psychedelic therapy is more than the experience itself If this conversation leaves you thinking about your own healing or growth, I want to be clear that Growing Self does not offer psychedelic therapy. What we do offer is thoughtful, evidence-based therapy and coaching for people who want to grow with intention and care. If you’d like, I’d love to help you think through what kind of support would actually be most helpful for you. I’ve created a simple, private way to do that. By answering just a few quick questions, we can help match you with the right therapist or coach for a complimentary consultation—someone who understands what you’re navigating and where you’d like to go next. Schedule a free consultation today. Consider it a small gift from me, and a gentle next step if you’re ready for one. xoxo, Dr. Lisa Marie BobbyGrowing Self

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0:00.0

So here on love happiness and success, we talk about real pathways to healing and growth.

0:21.6

And today we're exploring a topic that has been getting a lot of attention.

0:25.6

I got introduced to psychedelics in the 70s.

0:29.6

I was really convinced that this was a breakthrough in advance for psychiatry.

0:35.6

Now, you might be curious about this.

0:38.3

You might have heard the buzz.

0:39.3

You might be hopeful, or you might be coming into this conversation,

0:43.3

feeling a little skeptical, and all of that is totally normal.

0:47.3

And the truth is that there's a lot to learn.

0:50.3

The research behind psychedelic therapies are compelling and the risks are also real.

0:58.9

So understanding both of these is essential if you are considering this route, thinking about what options might be right for you.

1:07.1

And my goal today is just to help you understand this landscape so that you can make good decisions.

1:12.4

And now our clinic in Fort Collins, Colorado, Holness Center, is an approved healing center for the state of Colorado because we now have legalized psilocybin care in our state.

1:35.6

Music in our state. And there is no one better to guide us than Dr. Scott Shannon.

1:41.5

He's a psychiatrist who has been shaping this field for decades. I'm just really

1:47.3

convinced that this is sort of the next breakthrough for modern mental health and psychiatry,

1:52.4

and that it represents very interesting and quite different and not without its challenges,

1:59.5

innovations for mental health.

2:01.0

Welcome, Dr. Shannon.

2:03.2

Hey, Felisa.

2:04.1

Very happy to be with you today and share some of this information.

2:07.7

To begin, tell us about your personal experiences and the outcomes, the healing that is possible through psychedelic therapies compared to more conventional

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