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Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

How the Japanese Art of Listening Transforms Relationships: Learn Skills That Help Couples Connect & Communicate Deeper | Love | E493

Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

YAP Media Network | Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7890 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

You’re speaking... they’re nodding… and yet somehow, the disconnect lingers. Western culture teaches us that communicating more clearly will fix the problems in our relationships, but what if the missing piece isn’t “more talking” at all? What if learning how to listen differently is what actually changes everything? When we understand how to listen in a deeper, more intentional way, communication problems soften, conflict and repair become easier, and emotional intimacy has room to grow. In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Haru Yamada, a sociolinguistics researcher, writer, and author of Kiku: The Japanese Art of Good Listening. Haru holds a PhD from Georgetown University and has spent her life studying language, culture, and communication across borders. Having grown up moving between countries and cultures, her work centers on listening as a relational skill and a form of intelligence that supports both emotional and physical health. She now lives in London with her French partner in a multicultural family where listening is essential. Together, we explore what the Japanese art of listening teaches us about how to listen in relationships. We talk about why hearing words is not the same as being understood, how tone, silence, pacing, and emotional awareness shape connection, and why so many couples feel unseen even when conversations sound productive on the surface. This conversation offers a reframe for anyone who wants to be a better listener and communicate with more care, clarity, and compassion. If you’ve ever wondered how to listen in a way that actually helps your partner feel safe and understood, this episode offers listening skills you can start using right away. These are skills that support conflict and repair, strengthen emotional intimacy, and help couples move out of stuck communication patterns and into real connection. As you listen, I invite you to reflect on these questions: Where might you be listening for information, when what your partner really needs is to be listened to as a person? And how might your relationships change if feeling heard became the goal, not winning the conversation? Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Why Communication Problems Persist in Relationships 01:02 The Japanese Art of Listening and How It Changes Relationships 02:56 Speaking vs Listening: Who Is Responsible for Understanding? 05:18 How Listening Impacts Relational Health and Healing 08:35 “Kiku” and Listening With 14 Hearts: Hearing Information vs Hearing a Person 16:10 Listening Skills That Build Emotional Intimacy 19:31 Why Conflict Happens When We Don’t Feel Heard 25:17 How Expectations Shape What We Hear 28:50 How to Be a Good Listener in Love and Relationships 35:27 Staying Present: The Hardest and Most Important Listening Skill 40:19 Listening as Care: How Being Heard Supports Healing and Repair If you’d like support as you practice listening differently and creating more understanding in your relationships, I’d love to help you find the right next step. I’ve created a simple, private way for you to connect with the support that fits you best. You can answer a few quick questions, and we’ll help you schedule a free consultation with the right counselor or coach on my team. It’s a quiet, pressure-free space to talk about what’s really been happening in your relationships and what you want to feel differently moving forward. xoxo, Dr. Lisa Marie BobbyGrowing Self

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0:00.0

This is Dr. Lisa Marie-Bavvy and you're listening to the Love, Happiness, and Success podcast.

0:10.0

A marriage counselor. I frequently talk to people who are seeking my services because they are incredibly frustrated with the communication or lack thereof that is happening in their relationships.

0:29.1

For most of my adult life, I've been studying language and culture.

0:33.6

And I've always been interested in different communication patterns all over the world.

0:38.5

Frequently, the problem that is described is that people don't feel heard.

0:44.1

The responsibility of communication rested primarily with the speaker.

0:50.5

They're talking, but their partner is listening. They're not understanding.

1:01.2

It is a vital component of healthy communication to have that connection.

1:09.5

That is why today we are speaking to my very special guest, Haru Yamada. She is a professor

1:19.1

and the author of an upcoming book called Kiku, the Japanese art of good listening.

1:31.3

We're listening for our emotions, our intonations, the way we say things, you know, what we want to come out of the relationship,

1:40.3

communicate all kinds of other things other than just information.

1:49.8

Dr. Yamada, it's a delight.

1:52.2

So pleased to be here. Thank you for having me.

1:55.6

As soon as I heard about you and your book, my ears instantly perked up because communication is like the number

2:04.7

one pain point of people coming into my counseling and coaching practice. Like what's the

2:10.5

problem? It's almost always communication. And you are such an authority in this space.

2:17.8

Academic research.

2:19.4

Tell us just a little bit more about your background.

2:22.1

And then I am going to start letting the questions fly.

2:26.4

Okay.

2:27.7

I'm a sociolinguist, which means that for most of my adult life, I think, probably also most of my life, I've been studying

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