So debt is one place in money that people feel so kind of bogged down by.

It's so frustrating and people want out.

They do.

And that's why a lot of people come to Ramsey Solutions and some of our channels because we talk

about this and we talk to real people doing this day in and day

out. And so I just want you to know that there's hope. If you're in the middle of your journey,

maybe you're starting your journey or maybe you've paid off debt and you're able just to kind

of bask in the idea of like, I did it. Regardless, we want debt out of your life. And so Jade

Warshall is one of our Ramsey personalities and she's incredible y'all's her story is unbelievable she

and her husband sam paid off $460,000 in debt and it took them close to seven and a half years to do it

so if there is someone to talk about getting out of debt she is the real deal so she's going to come on

and we're going to have a conversation about it because it is encouraging and a great reminder that you can do this if you're in this journey.

So make sure to like, subscribe, and share this video with a friend. And let's get into my conversation with my friend Jade Warshall. on here before. But I do think, you know, as I continue to read comments and people find us,

whether it's like on YouTube or podcasts, this idea of getting out of debt still feels impossible

to a lot of people. Absolutely. I mean, it is an overwhelming thing to sit down. You look at your

finances. You realize you're in trouble and there's something that you have to do about that

in that moment. People don't like changing their routines,

right? We feel a very close personal connection to the way we do things, how we spend our money.

So when you realize that you have to make changes, it's very tough. Yes. And so you and Sam started

this process. How long we're all married? About a year. Okay. Yeah. And so when you decided, okay, let's just add everything up and see, it was what, 460,000 right over that?

It was. So, $460,000 is more so after all the interests and things like that. So in the moment,

it didn't look like $460, but you have to remember, this went over seven and a half years. So that

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