Welcome to the Bowwerp Podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes and this is the second installment of

our new companion podcast, The Trump Trials. Each week on Thursdays, we're going to focus

on the prosecutions, criminal investigations, civil cases and legal issues surrounding

the former president as well as key players in Trump world. We're partnering with law

friend. Once again, we are joined by Ben Wittis editor in chief of law fair who is back

from London. Good to talk with you again, Ben. Great to be here and great to have this

opportunity to introduce you to some of our people. Well, we are going to have a number

of guests, including Roger Parloff, senior editor at law fair also and a Bowwer is going

to talk about funny willis's investigation. So of course, we're going to get to the fact

that Donald Trump will not be calling any defense witnesses or testifying in the rape

case brought by E. Jean Carroll in Manhattan. We're going to talk about that. I want to get

an update from Twitter, jail. I want to get your thoughts on Vladimir Putin's possible false

flag attack that he's blaming Ukraine for. But first, we are going to be talking about

the bombshell verdict that came down this morning in the proud boys edition trial in

Washington, DC. This is the New York Times account for members of the proud boys, including

their former leader in Rikki Tariyo were convicted on Thursday of seditious conspiracy

for plotting to keep President Donald J. Trump in power after his election defeat by leading

a violent mob and attacking the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The jurors in the case failed

to reach a decision on the sedition charge for one of the defense, Dominic Pizzola, although

he was convicted of other serious felonies. The verdicts coming after seven days of deliberations

in federal district court in Washington were a major blow against one of the country's

most notorious far right groups. And another milestone in the Justice Department's vast

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