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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

The Promise of Dark Retreat (Andrew Holecek)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Education, Self-improvement

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

“We’re all addicted to light,” says Andrew Holocek, author of Total Eclipse of the Mind: Unleashing the Power of Darkness for Creativity, Healing, and Transformation. “We’re all light junkies in the deepest possible way. And so because we're so lost in the light, blinded by the light, that I think the pendulum is swinging back. And there's a deep intimation, it may be inarticulate for a number of people—why so many people are simultaneously attracted and repulsed by the darkness, of what it represents.” Today, Holocek (who has been meditating for 50 years and doing dark retreat for 30) shares how to dip your toe into dark practice, a soothing way of framing fear, and a glimpse into what each of us might find in the dark.  For the show notes (including a link to the masks we talk about), head to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Lemonado.

0:05.7

Hi, it's Elise Luna and host of Pulling the Thread.

0:08.9

Today I'm talking to Andrew Holosek about Dark Retreat.

0:12.8

This episode of Don't Listen to us is brought to you by booking.com.

0:17.1

I'm looking out my window and spring is in the air.

0:20.2

It's time to go travel. I've got to say,

0:22.9

if you're looking to grow your vacation rental business, this is the place to be. Booking.com

0:28.9

is one of the most downloaded travel apps in the world and for good reason. Since 2010, they've helped

0:35.0

over 1.8 billion vacation rental guests find places to stay.

0:41.3

That's billion with a B.

0:43.7

But here's the thing.

0:45.2

Most vacation rental hosts don't even realize they can list their properties on booking.com.

0:50.9

And if you're not on the platform, your rental is basically invisible to millions of booking.com

0:57.2

travelers worldwide. After all, they can't book what they can't see, right? But once you start

1:03.9

listing on booking.com, your property gets seen by a massive global audience of unique travelers. That means more visibility,

1:13.4

more bookings, and more opportunity to accelerate the growth of your rental business.

1:19.1

And it couldn't be easier. You can register your property in as little as 15 minutes,

1:23.7

and nearly half of hosts get their first booking within a week. So if your vacation rental

1:29.4

isn't listed on booking.com, it could be invisible to millions of travelers searching the platform.

1:36.6

Don't miss out on consistent bookings and global reach. Head over to booking.com and start your

1:43.3

listing today. Get seen. Get booked on booking.com.

1:49.0

If you're looking for another podcast that tackles life's big questions and who isn't looking for

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